Faded Giant and UFOs with Robert Salas – Paranormal Podcast 153

by Jim Harold on August 9, 2010

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Robert Salas

Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas’ military career would be fascinating enough if he just told you about his time at a ICBM base where he was in command of troops who held the keys to mankind’s most destructive force.  It becomes even more fascinating tonight, when he tells is about the time in 1967 when a UFO visited that base and may have brought multiple nuclear tipped Minuteman missiles offline…on this edition of The Paranormal Podcast.

You can find Robert’s book on the subject at Amazon.com:

Faded Giant

Also, here is a link to the website that Robert mentioned that contains information about his upcoming press conference at the National Press Club:

UFOHastings.com

Thanks Robert!

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A number of us have reached the conclusion that one of the two comments submitted above by James Carlson deserves to be published and recognized, but we are fairly evenly divided regarding which one of these is likely to be given voice on this website, although, admittedly, there were three votes asserting the opinion that both will be discarded. We're just curious, because we've been through this a number of times in the past, and a number of very highly regarded sites professing a desire for public discourse have simply rejected the introduction of such comments. As a result of this, we decided that it would be appropriate to submit both for moderation, even though that decision was only made in retrospect to the original submission. Thanks for your time!

Recent internet and and other media advertisements announcing a September 27, 2010 press conference to be held at the National Press Club, Washington, DC intended to address "the vital issue of UFO incursions at U.S. nuclear weapons sites over the past six decades" [ED NOTE: We cannot approve direct links as a matter of site policy...direct link following had HTML stripped] ufohastings.com/PressPage.html have forced us to take countering steps to halt this pathetic joke on an apparently credulous American public. One reason for this is the unfortunate fact that during a period of financial insecurity for most of America, the individuals organizing this discussion -- Robert Salas, co-author of "Faded Giant", and Robert Hastings, author of "UFOs and Nukes" -- intend to pay for this farce utilizing the donations of other Americans. Some of us think that's a crime, especially in light of the fact that numerous witnesses to what has since been described as "one of the top ten UFO cases best supported by the evidence" -- the incident supposedly analyzed in the book "Faded Giant", and set as a primary point of discussion for the announced conference -- have come forward repeatedly to assert very convincingly that no such interference by UFOs ever occurred. It is our intention to present the actual facts of this particular case to varied members of the national press establishment in order to ensure that at least somebody at this conference is prepared well enough to ask the participants the necessary hard questions so the whole press conference doesn't turn into a pile of otherwise insignificant fluff intended to stoke civil demands for full disclosure of classified materials discussing such incidents. Most of us are convinced that such people should not have any voice whatsoever regarding the disposition of any classified materials maintained by the Department of Defense, and believe that political and military agendas of this sort should not hinge on the lies of men who make a respectable wage by needlessly frightening as many people as possible; they generate paranoia for money. A firm belief that there are plenty of confirmed and tangible characteristics of modern life that we actually should be paranoid about, coupled with strong proof that this conference is based primarily on easily disputed arguments and undeniable lies that have no basis in historical values or facts is the point of this communication. If these men are going to hold a press conference, the press should be prepared to ask appropriate questions of them, including questions that establish their very conscious deceit of the American public that they have repeatedly refused to answer in the past. I'm not simply claiming that these men are lying; I have repeatedly proven that they have lied. All I'm asking is that representatives of the press examine the evidence that we have collected, in order to prepare themselves for this joke of a "news conference" currently scheduled for later this month in Washington, DC.

The organizers of this upcoming event have claimed that in March 1967, on two different occassions -- March 16 and March 24 -- UFOs interfered with the normal operations of two silo complexes attached to Malmstrom AFB, Montana and armed with nuclear tipped Minuteman I missiles as a primary facet of U.S. defensive forces. These alleged events are said to have occurred at Echo Flight on March 16, and at Oscar Flight on March 24. Such claims have been strongly disputed by the USAF officers manning these launch facilities, the only exception being Robert Salas, who is quite literally selling his supposed recollections to the general public. If people want to understand the actual events of March 1967, including the incidents at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight, we encourage you to examine without any cost whatsoever the narrative discussing these incidents at [ED NOTE: We cannot approve direct links as a matter of site policy...direct link following had HTML stripped] scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson , and more recent discussions at currently at [ED NOTE: We cannot approve direct links as a matter of site policy...direct link following had HTML stripped] realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688&sid=da8c688fe79cb16fb02369bcdb065e69 , all of which will eventually be added to the original Americans, Credulous narrative. I strongly recommend that you examine the interviews and facts that have been very carefully examined at realityuncovered.net/ , specifically the four most recent articles under "Latest News", entitled "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident, March 1967", "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident – Part II", "The Malmstrom AFB Missile/UFO Incident – Part III", and the most recent, "An Interview With Malmstrom AFB Witness Eric Carlson", all four of which have been written by Ryan Dube.

The commander of Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, MAJ (Ret.) Eric D. Carlson, very recently released the following definitive statement:

"Let me start by stating that, as best as I can recall, my only contact with Salas and Hastings has been on the phone. I did tell Salas that he could release my name to whomever he wished, don't know why he needed my permission. I have talked to a newspaper writer in Great Falls, several years age, and a TV producer from one of those UFO shows. With both these individuals I denied any knowledge of any UFO's at Malmstrom. In addition, I stated that there was no, repeat no, incident at Oscar flight as Salas maintains. The man is either lying or delusional.

"My only contact with Hastings was a call I received from him regarding his book. I stated that his book sounded interesting and he later sent me a copy which I read and gave away .... At no time did I mention anyone's mental status ... although in retrospect I could comment on Salas'.

"My memory is quite good regarding the events at Malmstrom and there is no doubt in my mind that there were no reports of UFO's and no incident at Oscar flight. I will be willing to discuss this with anyone who is truly interested in the facts."

His deputy commander at Echo Flight, COL (Ret.) Walter Figel, Jr., has insisted as well that UFOs were not involved, and adds that his version of this event has been distorted by both Robert Salas and Robert Hastings in order to give the impression that an actual UFO was involved. He asserts very strongly that no UFOs were involved, nor were UFOs ever reported.

Robert Salas' commander at Oscar Flight, Frederick Meiwald, insists that he doesn't even believe in UFOs -- a strange comment to make in light of Salas' insistence that a UFO took out the missiles at Oscar Flight during an incident that not only resulted in an injury to one non-commissioned officer, requiring that man to be evacuated from the site by helicopter, but also emptied completely the security command post of all armed personnel in order to face down this UFO threat. One would probably expect the commander of Oscar Flight, after experiencing such a tumultuous watch, would have changed his opinions regarding the existence of UFOs, and yet, it has not.

In light of the numerous errors made by Robert Salas and Robert Hastings in their discussions of this and similar events throughout the internet, and in light of Robert Salas' well-documented inclinations to change his story, even as to the location and date, it is a remarkable and shameful measure of journalism in the world today that the press has, to a great extent, ignored the insistences of these primary witnesses that no UFOs were involved with any equipment failures at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967, preferring instead to rest their reporting with the prevarications of people like Hastings and Salas. These men have been repeatedly interviewed and catered to by men like Larry King, and yet the easily understood and repeatedly confirmed insistences of all other witnesses that UFOs were not observed, reported, or investigated has been entirely ignored by the world press. This is a disgusting indictment of journalism in America today.

Any representatives of the press or other media who have questions regarding the narrative "Americans, Credulous", the ongoing discussions in the Reality Uncovered forums, the associated articles written by Ryan Dube, or who wish to discuss this matter with those men who were actually present, and can therefore report with far more accuracy the events at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967, are encouraged to contact James Carlson at jtcarl@yahoo.com -- I can very easily put you in contact with my father, the commander of Echo Flight in March 1967, who was present when all ten missiles were taken off of strategic alert by an electronic noise pulse generated internally at the launch control facility. This pulse interfered with the normal operation of the logic coupler on the guidance and control module for that facility, causing thereby the failure of the missiles, which were, in effect, simply turned off. The incident was very well documented and was thoroughly investigated, and every word that Robert Salas and Robert Hastings have ever said on the subject has been repeatedly discounted or proven outright to be little more than lies and embellishments created for the purpose of making money from the sales of their books, the sales of associated videos, and the speaking fees they charge as a matter of course when retelling their ridiculous little folk tales. These people are shameless, and so, apparently, is the press apparatus that has elevated this ridiculous little children's bedtime story to its current "fame" as one of the top ten UFO cases supported by the best evidence.

Please feel free to distribute this communication however you think appropriate (and yes, that includes the recycle bin as well). I ask only that you give some more in-depth thought to the issues noted and the claims expressed. You should be aware that there is another point of view in regard to this matter -- one that has been repeatedly confirmed by those men who were actually involved with this singular event in USAF history, has been very well-documented through the years, and was very thoroughly investigated by the USAF for some months after the incident itself.

We request that if representatives of your organization plan to be in attendance on September 27, that you ask penetrating questions, thereby holding these men accountable for the paranoia they profit from, the lies they tell, the many lives they have been prepared to reduce in stature for their own aggrandizement, and the reputations they have consciously set out to diminish. Thank you for your time, and please feel free to contact me if you have any questions whatsoever.

Most sincerely,
James Carlson
Albuquerque, NM
jtcarl@yahoo.com

figel is totally opposite of your statement,and even said that you(or your father) was standing 2 ft away from him.so he doesn't understand how didn't know.

I don't understand why your so adamant in hiding the truth.your own witness is totally opposite of you.

LINK: theufochronicles.com/2010/09/echooscar-witch-hunt.html
HERE IS WHAT FIGEL SAID:
So, James Carlson has it all wrong, according to his father’s deputy missile commander that day at Echo Flight, now-retired Col. Walter Figel. Actually, the presence of a UFO at one of Echo’s missiles was indeed reported to Figel, by personnel on-site as well as a Security Alert Team (Strike Team) member. It was described as a “large, round object”, hovering directly over the launch facility. Moreover, Figel insists that Eric Carlson was fully aware of the situation, given that he was sitting “two feet away” from Figel during his phone calls with the on-site maintenance man and the missile security policeman. As to why the elder Carlson can not, or will not, confirm Figel’s story, I won’t speculate

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