Jim speaks with Paul Smith PhD who practiced as a clinical psychologist for 23 years before he committed healthcare fraud, leading to an indictment and a 51-month federal prison sentence serving 28 months. In his book Cruel and Unusual Punishment: A Memoir of the Psychological Realities of Federal Prison, Paul shares his experience in the federal prison system and how living too long in such a harsh environment can strip away compassion and bring out a more savage side of human nature.

You can purchase his book at Amazon here: ⁠https://amzn.to/4l9gR1x⁠

Thanks Paul!

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