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Jim Harold
Did one of our caller’s family members see a demon? This and more on this week’s Campfire!
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Jim Harold
Welcome to the Campfire. I am Jim Harold. And so glad to be with you once again. And we’re in full swing here in the New Year at the Spooky Studio, producing content, doing interviews, editing. We’re doing it all, and I hope that you’re enjoying it. And today, we have another all new Campfire for your approval and enjoyment. And if you do enjoy what we do here, which is share real stories of real people who have experienced strange things, supernatural things, paranormal things, that’s what we do. If you enjoy that, please make sure. first of all, you tell your friends. You know, podcasting is becoming more and more popular. And people who said, “Ah, that podcasting thing, that’s not for me,” now they’re interested. So please do your part. You’re listening to this free show. And we’re glad to provide it for you with the help from our sponsors. But your role here is, of course, support our sponsors, and tell your friends. Tell everybody online, tell your friends personally. Tell some one today. That’s a favor that I ask of you. And we won’t belabor the point any further, you know what you need to do. So please go do it. And we thank you so much. And now here’s our first great Campfire story. Amy is on the line from Vermont, so glad to speak with her. And she says that it’s fair to say that she grew up spooky. And she says she has a virtual laundry list of inexplicable experiences. And she’s going to share a couple of those with us today. Amy, welcome to the program. And please tell us about this growing up spooky and some of the strangeness that ensued.
Amy
Oh, well, sure. First of all, thanks for having me on. So I grew up in Louisiana, in a little town called Chalmette. It’s–unless you’re from there, you don’t know where it is. So I usually just tell people New Orleans, and, you know, they nod, you don’t have to explain anything.
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Amy
So I’m going to date myself here. So, the house we moved into, my family, it’s my mom, my dad, and I have a younger brother, he’s about two years younger than me. And it’s, you know, from the 70s. You know, if you could picture it, it’s like the brick house, fairly new developments. I want to say that we were probably the second family to move in there, but the house itself was less than 10 years old. And so, I don’t, I don’t remember a great deal of any, you know, feeling of, of, you know, the house being haunted or anything like that. But there were a few incidents that seemed to–to occur, that kind of stick out to me. And it kind of, as you know, you get older in your teenage years, there are a lot more things, if that makes any sense. One of the first things I can remember is that my brother and I were, it was like a Saturday morning were jumping on our parents king sized bed, because you know, that’s what they’re made for, right. And we were–had finished up watching Saturday morning cartoons, and they had one of those, you know, they had a cool color television set that was sitting on their dresser, and it’s one of those older ones that has the turn–you had to turn the knob to turn the channel which is where that expression comes from kids.
Jim Harold
(Laughs) I remember.
Amy
(Laughs) And so those knobs made a very distinct noise, you know–
Jim Harold
Click, click, click.
Amy
Yes. Click clunk. And it was–it was–
Jim Harold
Oh yeah.
Amy
–A noise you know, if you know you know, and it required some pressure to do it, and it wasn’t, you know, accidentally set–we didn’t have TVs where there were four remotes that was like science fiction compared to, you know, what we had, right? So we’re jumping up and down on the bed just doing our thing because there are no more cartoons to watch because it’s–at a certain time that’s done, right? And so we–I forget how–who noticed first or whatever, but we heard that clunk, clunk sound of the dial, turning on the television set, which we had turned off. And we both looked at this television, and the dial on the on the TV set was turning back and forth between what looked like two channels, two stations. And obviously the TV’s not on or anything like that, we’re not touching it. It’s doing it by itself. And I remember just looking at each other. And basically just bolting, just bolting. It was–if it was a cartoon, you could have seen this big dust cloud behind us,
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Amy
Just, just scary. And, you know, “Ahhh,” right? And I can’t remember if, you know, we went to our mom, or said anything about it, it was just one of those things that’s filed away, and–and afterwards, it seemed to be a certain level of acceptance that weird things just happened in our house. And I remember my mom relating to us as we had gotten home for school. She told me this because she was afraid of scaring my little brother, but it was apparently okay to scare me. But what happened, she was vacuuming in the hallway that runs in our little house. Oh, it was just a single level house–brick house. And that hallway connected all the bedrooms and the bathrooms. And she was vacuuming there. And she says she backed into a person.
Jim Harold
Hmm.
Amy
Not a wall, nothing like that. But of course, she turned–it startled her, she turned around, and there’s nobody there to back into.
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Amy
And of course it scared her. She tells me of it. And then after that, I was just terrified I would accidentally run into the Invisible Man that was in the middle of the hallway too. So it just kind of sticks, you know, sticks in your brain.
Jim Harold
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Amy
But, you know, the big thing that–and then I think this is the biggie if you want to–my brother and I, as we got older, I’m you know, 14, 15, about this time, he’s 12. You know, and we just love to get on each other’s nerves. We would have like these really good fights that sometimes resulted in physical altercations. You know, the usual–
Jim Harold
Sure.
Amy
–Stuff.
Jim Harold
Brothers and sisters.
Amy
Yes. Right. And so, you know, his big deal was to invade the sanctity of my room, right? You’re a teenager, that’s your place, right? And he would, you know, he’d sneak in my room, and I had like that pretty pink princess furniture that, you know, if you can envision this, it had that–that–these little holes on them, that if–it was a handle that if you let it go, it would make this tink, tink, tink, sound against the striking plate that was on the front of it.
Jim Harold
Sure.
Amy
It was–all the handles were like that, it’s very distinct noise, so you know it. And because we had that warfare going on, I was always kind of vigilant for that sound of that noise, of someone in my room, rummaging through my drawers. And it was my brother usually. So that’s how I’d know when he was in there sneaking around and stuff, and I’d come running in, and you know, there’ll be a fight and all the usual chaos. And so I remember getting off of the bus from school, and I must have been about, you know, like I said, 15, maybe in ninth grade or something. We were both still going to the same school. I had gotten off the bus, I’m in the kitchen, getting myself something out of the fridge. And I can hear that tink, tink, tink noise of the pull, one of the pulls in the drawers on my bedroom furniture set. And I was like, “Oh,” it immediately triggered me and I was just, you know, “I’m going to go catch him. I’m gonna go catch my brother.” And about midway there, I stopped in the, in the living room, and I realized I had gotten off the bus, my brother had stayed behind at school. There shouldn’t be anybody else in the house that’s pulling on the drawers in my furniture set.
Jim Harold
Yeah.
Amy
And then I’m like, as I got there, I stopped. I froze, and I just got this cold chill. And I’m like, you know, yes, it could have been someone in the house. But at the time, you know, all these thoughts are going through your head. And it was–the best way I could describe it as if whoever or whatever is in my room making that noise, that sound on the dresser, knew that I knew that–I figured it out if that makes any sense. Knew that I was listening, that it had my attention. Because in that moment, all of the, it sounded like what all of the pulls on all of my dressers, the nightstands, everything in that matching set. All of them were being flipped at the same time. Like a little orchestra of them, you know, and I like, didn’t go in my room. I–I did a pivot right out the door and just sat on the patio, and I just waited on the patio forever getting bit by mosquitoes, waiting for responsible adults to come home.
Jim Harold
So what do you think was behind this? It’s almost like it was not an old home at the time or anything like that. What do you think was going on?
Amy
I–I honestly don’t know. It’s like I said, it’s–it’s not like, you know, oh, it was built on some burial ground or, you know, there–this is some area that used to be farms. And perhaps at one time, it was owned by a plantation owner back in the 1600s, 1700s. It’s Louisiana, everything around there may have had some sort of history to it, because it’s, you know, it’s always been settled since that time. But, you know, and I know that there’s a lot of thoughts, there are a lot of thoughts sometimes that people would–assigned poltergeist-like activity to people that are–got teenagers–in households where there are teenagers, and there’s a lot of emotion, and strife, and turmoil.
Jim Harold
Yeah.
Amy
And I have to say that, you know, there were a lot of unhappy things happening in my house, you know, family problems and whatnot. And I’m sure that was probably fuel for it. So either it was something that was self aware, and it just liked to tease us and plague us. Or it was something that was just unconscious manifestation that was happening like that. But, oh, and I forgot to just say, is that there was also this thing that would just occur randomly in the house. We called it the roof runner, my brother and I called it the roof runner, because we couldn’t explain it. As I said, it’s a single little one story house with a pretty steep roof. And any time of day, and sometimes even at night, you would just hear these tiny footsteps, bump, bump, bump, bump, like a child running across the roof of the house.
Jim Harold
Huh.
Amy
And it would–it would happen anytime, day or night, I remember him having a friend over as we were there doing–watching television, and he got spooked by the sound because no one could explain what it was. And he ran out of the house and would never come back in the house again. So punctuated throughout this, were always those random occurrences too. So who knows?
Jim Harold
The roof runner, that’s interesting. And your point, I mean, I’ve interviewed people on my other shows, where we talk to authors, and experts, and things and, you know, I’ve had people say just what you said, you know, a lot of times poltergeist activity coincides with a house full of adolescents, or with maybe some kind of emotional strife or something going on in the house. So interesting, indeed. Well, Amy, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. Thanks to Astonishing Legends, because I know that’s where you heard us. And thanks again for being a part of the Campfire.
Amy
Wonderful. Thank you very much.
Jim Harold
Sergio is on the line from Bahrain. I know this is the first call we’ve ever had from Bahrain, and boy, is that cool. And we’re so glad that Sergio has decided to join us today with really a very remarkable story. Sergio, welcome. Thanks so much. I hope that you’ll become our representative in Bahrain, you can promote us over there, and I really appreciate it. And please do, please do tell us this remarkable story.
Sergio
Hi. So yeah, thank you for having me on. The story that what happened to me was very weird, because it combines two different things. Having a very vivid and strong dream, while at the same time going through a sort of a near death experience. And it had a, an effect on me, which I will get to in a bit. So basically, just some random nights around seven, eight years ago, where I was, this was the dream itself. And I remember I was walking in this area that looked like a beach resort. So I would be walking, and on my right side, there are restaurants, and people having, you know, lunch and just shopping and all that, while on my left side, there is the beach, there are palm trees, and stuff like that. So it’s kind of like, you know, if you think Miami, or something like that, even though I’ve never been there. And while I was walking, a sensation came up–came to me when I felt this terrible fear out of nowhere. And what I do remember is that something sharp went through my back, and a guy passed right next to me. It took me a second to realize that this person had stabbed me and continued running. Now the pain was–was very strong. And I remember I fell to the ground, and I was crawling, and I could see the blood gushing out of my back onto the floor. And I was looking to the side on my right to see if anyone from these people in those restaurants could help me, or could come to me, but no one did. It felt like they couldn’t see me, couldn’t hear me just ignored me completely. As I stepped even a bit further. I remember seeing on my right side, two children who were playing with a ball. There was a boy and a girl, and he was 10 years old, and she was eight. I don’t know why I know this, it was just very clear to me in that moment. They were passing this ball to each other. And they were the only ones who saw me. So they went to me. And they kind of held me down and hugged me. So I remember that I was laying down now on my back, putting my head on the knees of the boy, but the girl, she was sitting a bit in front of me, and she was holding my hands. And they were talking to me. But as they were talking, I started feeling the entire space that I was in started to fade away completely, and turn into this very white area, like it became less clear, more blurry, blurry, and then it completely faded into white. And I was in this space surrounded by complete white, and very strong light, to an extent, while these two kids, were just trying to calm me down. And I remember very clearly, that the boy was telling me, “It’s okay, it’s okay. Everything’s gonna be okay now.” And I recognize at the time that it seems that I have died, basically. And that these two were beings. I don’t know if I want to call them angels,
Jim Harold
Right.
Sergio
I want to call them more, you know, 5-D creatures, I don’t really know, I just knew that they were not from this earth. And they filled me with this unbelievable calm. And I really can’t explain that–the emotion that got over me because while I started this, you know, this–the dream or what I started when when I was stabbed, it was complete fear, I could feel it through my bones more than anything I’ve ever experienced while I was awake. It completely transformed itself. And I was just feeling like I’m in a very safe space, unbelievably loved, and very cared for. And it felt like, I actually don’t want this to end. In a way, whatever I’m going through right now feels like, it feels very familiar to me, it’s sort of like feels like I’m coming back home. And they were just completely surrounding me with this love and care. And all my fears went away, I felt completely weightless. And it was just like acceptance, acceptance of this new basically journey or something that I’m on. And it went on for a while. And then it got a bit hazy because I do remember knowing that this is not an actual real thing. And I remember feeling that someone is telling me, “It’s not your time now. You have to you have to leave,” basically. And I accepted that, and I woke up. Now, the strange thing about this dream is not about what happened in it. Now obviously, I’ve researched things about it after, since it stayed with me for weeks after, I went into research about near death experiences, I was very surprised to know that whatever–whatever I was feeling through that dream, a lot of people actually experience it when they are considered clinically dead, like there are so many people who got into accidents who were officially dead for a few minutes, and then they experienced this whole space of being surrounded by lights and this love and care and so on and so on. But what I found stranger than all of that is that till now, seven years later, I have an issue with my back where I feel the knife went in.
Jim Harold
Huh.
Sergio
So there’s this muscle where if I go to get a massage for example, if–I went to my osteopath doctor the other day and like whenever he would–he would pass his thumb over this area this–the muscle itself tenses up in a way that it doesn’t do that in any of my–in my entire body. And he asked me if I actually was hurt like did I suffer an injury or was it sports, did I fall? And I’m like nothing ever happened to me that I’m aware of. It’s just that I can only trace it back to that night, to that dream, and ever since then, it still hurts till now whenever I touch it, it just–
Jim Harold
And it never hurt before? Never hurt before?
Sergio
Never hurt before. Never had an issue.
Jim Harold
That’s weird.
Sergio
No injury, nothing, completely gone. And even he didn’t really know what to do with it. He was like, “I’m trying to loosen the muscle, I’m trying to move some, you know, the bone, make it a bit, here and there,” and it’s like it’s not working. There is literally nothing that he was able to do.
Jim Harold
That’s amazing. See you not only have this remarkable dream, you have a physical manifestation in your body after it, directly related–
Sergio
Yes, exactly.
Jim Harold
–to what happened. So, I mean, even if that wouldn’t have happened, that still would have been a remarkable dream.
Sergio
Yeah, yeah.
Jim Harold
Now, some people might have just said it was a dream. But the fact that you have this physical manifestation says it was more than just a dream, really.
Sergio
Exactly.
Jim Harold
Really interesting.
Sergio
Exactly. Because, because to me, like you said, the dream itself would have been enough to kind of, you know, try to understand it more, but the fact that it–and it wasn’t sudden, so it’s not like a pain that came up to me immediately after the dream. It was years after when I started noticing that this area is a very sensitive area and stands out from everywhere else in my body. And I’ve broken bones in my body. I’ve done a lot of things, been to the hospital and all that, so I usually notice things within my body, and where it hurts and not, but this thing, it feels like a physical manifestation and also some sort of like a memory that was–that kept–that stayed in my body after that dream happened.
Jim Harold
So could it be–now some people subscribe to the idea of past lives. If this had been a past life, could that dream have been a memory of what happened? And then came the physical manifestation as a result? Is that one possible explanation?
Sergio
I would, I would definitely subscribe to something like that. I do believe in past lives. And I do feel that whatever I saw in that dream felt a lot more than other dreams I’ve had. I’ve always had dreams, vivid, all my life, ever since I was a kid, recurring dreams, I’ve had sleep paralysis, out of body experiences, what have you. And this one, you know, stays, it stays with you. Like, I can’t forget it. And the impact it had on me, it kind of also pushed me in a whole new direction in my life. Like when I started reading more about near death experiences, I started understanding more about myself, and why I was always attracted to certain topics and certain things that would happen with me. So it felt like a memory. And everything had been telling me you need to get on board, you need to understand the world you live in, your reality, what is your sole purpose? And so on. So it’s affected me physically, mentally, spiritually, on all levels.
Jim Harold
Yes, I could see how I can certainly do that. Now, before we go, I do want to mention this. Sergio is calling all the way from Bahrain. So we want to give him about a minute, so he can tell you about his podcast, and where folks can find it.
Sergio
Oh, thank you for that. So basically, I have a podcast where I discuss everything I talked about within this now. And I talk about most stuff, I talk, you know, spirituality, philosophy, ancient history, and so on. You can find me on any podcast channel, just search for Paradigm Shift with Sergio Halaby. And I also have an Instagram page where you can find me it’s paradigm.shift.experience, where I talk about all these topics.
Jim Harold
Very interesting. Indeed. Sergio, thank you for joining us today sharing a remarkable story all the way from Bahrain.
Sergio
Thank you so much for having me.
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Jim Harold
Stephanie is on the line from Oklahoma once again. And she has a story for us, Stephanie, thank you for joining us. And please do tell us your story.
Stephanie
Awesome. Thank you for having me again, Jim. It’s exciting to be here.
Jim Harold
Good to have you.
Stephanie
So my story–my last story was in Colorado. My next–this story was in Texas, I used to live at a Presbyterian conference center called Mo-Ranch. And if you’ve been there, shout out to you because it’s beautiful and very haunted. So a little bit of backstory on that ranch, it was originally built–I don’t know the exact facts, but the lore is that it was built by a oil tycoon. And he had a bunch of stuff going on there, a lot of really incredible buildings. And during the Great Depression, there were several–him and his crew down there. And they ended their lives, unfortunately there. And so they always say that there’s ghosts in certain buildings, but I was in what they called Guest Lodge, which was right down on the river.
Jim Harold
Mhmm.
Stephanie
And it is one of the largest buildings there. And we were playing pool, it was me and several friends of mine, just hanging out on a Sunday afternoon after everyone had left. And it was Texas, so obviously hot, during the summertime, and I decided that I was going to go get a cup of ice to, you know, chew on and munch on, and I walked across the building, because it’s from one side of the building to the other. And the way that it’s laid out, there’s a bar that you pass before you go into the kitchen. And then the kitchen is against the exterior wall, so you can leave from the kitchen. And so I went into like across–walked my way across the bar and saw myself in the mirror there and, you know, checked out my hair and all that good stuff and saw that there was no one behind me. But at this point, I kinda had a weird feeling too. So like I made sure to look to see if there was someone behind me. But there wasn’t. And so I continued on into the kitchen and filled my cup. And the part that I didn’t mention is when I was at the pool table, I made sure to ask anybody, “Hey, does anybody else want a cup of ice? You know, I’m gonna go over there.” And everyone said no. And so I’m filling my cup of ice. And I was thinking about that, and took my cup away from the filler. And someone tapped me on the shoulder and said, “Hey, I want some ice.” And I like turned around and saw the hand, and then turned all the way around and was like nothing there.
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Stephanie
And at that point my stomach like fell to my shoes. And I took an immediate left and left the building. And I ran around the outside of the building and refused to go back inside and was yelling at my friends from the outside. “You have to get out of there, and you have to get out of there. There’s a ghost,” and I actually talked to my brother who was there that day, recently and he told me that he remembers that day because when he was inside, when I started shouting at them, the temperature dropped.
Jim Harold
Oooh.
Stephanie
And he was like, “Yeah, cool. I’m leaving, I think this is a good time to go.” So–
Jim Harold
Yeah, you know, the thing is, is that, you know, a lot of people are brave and said, “You know, if there’s a place full of ghosts, I want to go in a darkened room, and I’m going to call him out. I want them to talk to me.” And, and, and you had a reaction that would be much more similar to me. I want to get away (laughs).
Stephanie
Oh, yeah, you can have it.
Jim Harold
Yeah, yeah. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. I mean, I can’t say I would never, I don’t know, I guess it’s a double negative–never not want to see a ghost. I guess I would under the ideal circumstances, maybe if I were prepared for it or something. But yeah, not if I were just getting a cup of ice.
Stephanie
Right. And I can’t say it, like, it was malevolent or anything. You know, I wasn’t like afraid for my life. I think it was just such a unexpected, you know, it just really freaked me out. So I look back on it and laugh, but at the time I was–I was very much freaked out. It gave me the heebie jeebies for sure.
Jim Harold
That’s a good way to put it. It would give me the heebie jeebies too. Well, Stephanie, thank you for being on the show again, and sharing your story on the Campfire.
Stephanie
Awesome. Well, I really appreciate you having me, Jim. And I hope you have a wonderful rest of your evening.
Jim Harold
Whitney is on the line from Kansas. And she’s been listening several years, and she says it’s weird to actually talk to me. Now, a lot people have said I’m weird over the years, but I don’t think that’s what she meant. But we thank Whitney so much for her longtime listenership. And she is going to talk about a family vacation. But this vacation had some very, very strange events. Whitney, welcome to the program. Thank you for listening all these years, and tell us what happened.
Whitney
Thanks, Jim. You’re awesome. So this–
Jim Harold
Oh thank you. Whitney, you are awesome, too.
Whitney
Thank you (laughs). So this is a family vacation that occurred when I was about 19 years old. My sister, who’s about a year and a half younger than me, and my dad, and I all went on vacation to Colorado. We rented a cabin in the woods, you know, that type of thing. And what makes the story really odd, is that for the longest time, and I had no idea about this, for the longest time, I thought we all had the same story.
Jim Harold
Mhmm.
Whitney
Come to find out, there’s a part of the story that is different that makes it really creepy. So we went to Colorado, we rented a cabin. It was just a one bedroom cabin. It was really nice. It had like a hammock in between two trees in the forest, and a hot tub, and it was pretty nice. My dad decided that he was going to take the bedroom. And my sister and I were going to sleep on two futons that were in the living room. The living room and the kitchen were were shared, it was just one big room. And the way that the futons were set up is there was one futon that was like a sofa, futon. And the other futon was a chair, like a living chair size. And I’d actually never seen that before.
Jim Harold
Huh.
Whitney
So that was kind of cool. You know, everything went great. We went whitewater rafting, did all sorts of, you know, Colorado adventures. And then in the evening when we settled in to go to bed, that’s when strange things started happening. And this is the story we all collectively remember, the same one so far.
Jim Harold
Okay.
Whitney
So everything was like woodsy decor. So the futon sofa and the futon chair had four posts on the ends that were like big logs. They were so big, you could actually set something on it like a drink or something like that.
Right.
But my sister had taken her glasses off and put that there to start the evening off. And I remember seeing them there. So she starts watching some TV, I start reading a book, and everything is going along fine. I’m ready to go to bed. So I put my book down, and we didn’t really get along that great as teenagers, and so I just kind of irritably told her to turn the TV off and I said, “Turn it off.” And as soon as I said that, the lamp that was next to me–
Jim Harold
Yeah.
Whitney
–turned off. The light just went off.
Jim Harold
Ooohh, oooh.
Whitney
And I honestly didn’t think that much about it at the time. I just thought, oh how weird that the light bulb went out right when I said that, and we settle in to–to go to sleep.
Jim Harold
Yeah, but I mean that’s weird when the light turns off when you’re talking about turning off–
Whitney
So, we go to bed. And this is where I thought we all remembered the same thing. And this is where it kind of gets different, I guess. I thought that we all awoke in the middle of the night. Well, my sister and I first because we were in the room where it happened. I thought that we had awoken to the sound of like a spoon being scraped against a plate. But they were like plastic spoons and plates that the Airbnb had just provided. And I know they were in the drying rack on the kitchen counter from dinner. And I remember the noise distinctly to this day, just the sound of it, like, scraping against the plate. And I started to get kind of panicked, and I call out, and I was like, “Did you hear that?” And my sister goes, “Yeah, yeah, I heard that.” And we screamed, and my dad came running out, he told us, he had just had an extremely weird dream, you know, kind of a personal nightmare to him. And so we all slept out in the living room after that, and with the light on.
Jim Harold
I don’t blame you (laughs).
Whitney
And it was–it was, you know, kind of just–just creepy. And the rest of the evening passes by without incident. When we woke up in the morning, my sister could not find her glasses. They weren’t where she had set them, right on the side of the sofa where the log plate was. We looked everywhere, we looked everywhere. We didn’t find her glasses until the very end of our trip when we decided to leave. And where they were found was in the other room, the bedroom, where only my dad was staying, we never went in there.
Jim Harold
That’s weird.
Whitney
On the floor, underneath his suitcase that he had set on the floor and hadn’t moved until we left.
Jim Harold
That’s bizarre.
Whitney
And that’s where her glasses were. And we found it several days later. So we just kind of had an uneasy feeling around the house. So we stayed another night or so. But I think it kind of spooked us all. So we decided to leave early. When we were getting our things and preparing to leave, you know, we were emptying the fridge of some soda and things we had brought. And I saw one of the cans of soda literally lift off of the counter, about two feet, and then get dropped.
Jim Harold
Oh man.
Whitney
And everyone heard the noise and turned around. I’m the only one that had seen it.
Jim Harold
That’s wild. That’s wild, just to see it lift up by itself and then just drop. I mean–
Whitney
Yes.
Jim Harold
–There is no logical explanation for that. Except if there’s some kind of ghost or poltergeist or something going on.
Whitney
Exactly. If you see it with your own eyes, it’s–it was kind of crazy. So we went home. We went back to Kansas. We all thought, Oh, what a crazy trip. You know, what an interesting experience. And I thought that was the end of it. We never really spoke about it too often after that, wasn’t really seriously brought up, until my dad–and I was having dinner with my dad and his wife, who wasn’t there for the trip. They had just gotten married, and I was having dinner with them.
Jim Harold
Right.
Whitney
And I decided, oh, what a cool story I can bring up to tell her. And I asked her, “Hey, has my dad ever told you about the story?” She said no. So I tell her the whole story just the way I told you. And at the very end of it, my dad looks at me and he said, “What about the part where you screamed, saying, ‘I can’t get up, I’m being held down.'”
Jim Harold
Oh, man.
Whitney
And I said, “What? What?” He said, “No, you woke up screaming that something was holding you down and that you couldn’t breathe.” And I said, “No I didn’t. I woke up to the sound of the spoon against the plate and the drying rack, and my sister said she heard it too.” And he said, “No, you woke everybody up by screaming–“
Jim Harold
Wow, wow.
Whitney
“–you couldn’t breathe, something was holding you down.” And that really, I mean, my heart just like sank. Because I have absolutely no memory of that whatsoever. And my dad’s kind of a, you know, a joker, he likes to pull little pranks on you, or tell you something that’s not true and see if you’ll believe it just for fun. And so as soon as I left his house, I called my sister on the phone. And she wasn’t–she wasn’t at the dinner either. And I didn’t tell her exactly what had happened. I just said, “Hey, remember, when we went to Colorado, and all that kind of weird stuff happened?” And she said, “Oh, yeah. And you woke everyone up by saying you couldn’t breathe, and like, something was holding you down or something?” And I was like, “What?”
Jim Harold
Oh, man. Wow.
Whitney
So he couldn’t have been just making it up to scare me.
Jim Harold
So, so do you guys have any theories what this was?
Whitney
I have no idea. And since then, I, before I got married, I slept alone for a very long time. And it kind of freaks me out to think, what could happen on any given day? And with nobody to witness it, I would have no idea.
Jim Harold
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Well, I’d probably cut down on the family camping trips.
Whitney
(Laughs)
Jim Harold
Not to make light of your situation. I mean, that’s scary. That’s–that’s very frightening.
Whitney
Like, and, you know, I was 19. I was kind of newly an adult. And I was like, “You didn’t take me to like, see anybody?” Like–
Jim Harold
Right.
Whitney
He didn’t take me to like counseling or something. Like get to the bottom of this. You’re just like, “Oh, that was weird. Well, moving along.”
Jim Harold
So if you ever get any insight on this, or you know, kind of say, “Aha, I figured it out.” Let us know.
Whitney
I will. But yeah, it` was really spooky.
Jim Harold
Yeah, that’s kinda like the definition of a head scratcher. A scary one, a scary one. Well, Whitney, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for listening all these years. And I hope that doesn’t happen to you again.
Whitney
Thanks, Jim. It was great to talk to you.
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Well, we are so glad to have Dana on the line. And we are looking forward to it. And she is going to tell us all about some doppelganger stories that she has. And I find these types of things amazing. And she’s been listening for 10 years now. That’s dedication, putting up with me for 10 years (laughs). But thank–sincerely, thank you so much, Dana. And please, please tell us these doppleganger stories.
Dana
Okay, well, thanks, Jim. It feels surreal to be on the–on the other end of this. So all three stories actually have to do with my dad. So the first story is from when my dad was little. Him and his brother used to play this game where they would hide under each other’s bed and one of them would–they’d wait till the other one fall asleep, and then they’d kick underneath the bed, and kind of scare the other person awake. So when, one night, my dad was kind of falling asleep and using that kind of half waking half sleeping state. And he felt the jolt. So he opened his eyes and he said, you know, “Ben get out from underneath my bed. I’m trying to sleep blah, blah.”
Jim Harold
Mhmm.
Dana
And so then he was kind of back awake. So he was kind of shuffling around and–and he felt it again. So he looked under his bed, and no one was there. And his brother was sleeping in his own bed.
Jim Harold
Oh my.
Dana
So that was the first one. Yeah. And it’s really funny because my dad is not at all a paranormal, like, believer. He, he’s had a lot of weird things happen. But he always says, “Oh, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it.” You know, he always just–even forgets about his own stories a lot. So that’s just the kind of skeptic that my dad is. So then fast forward to when I’m little. And my parents house is–it’s not creepy at all, but we’ve just had a lot of like weird things happen. I have an identical twin sister, who also listens to the show. And we just had a lot of weird experiences there. And so one time, my sister and my mom were out shopping ,and my sister and I just didn’t like to be alone. And maybe it’s because we’re twins or maybe because the house is a little bit creepy. But I went in the basement to color while my dad was working on billing for his company. So I was downstairs, and we heard my sister Leslie, go, “Mommy.” And my dad goes, “She’s not home.” And this was like 35 minutes after they left. I watched them pull out of the driveway.
Jim Harold
Mhmm.
Dana
And I just looked at my dad and I said, “Dad, Leslie’s not home either.” And he looks at me for a second. And then he goes, “Oh, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it.” And it was like coming from inside the house.
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Dana
So that was a, you know, a weird thing. And then the third thing that happened was again, it was me and my dad, and we were in the basement. And fast forward to–this is about five years ago, my husband and I were living with my parents while we were saving up to buy a house. And I–itwas about two o’clock in the afternoon because I worked at a boutique, so I had random days off during the week. So I thought I was the only one home, and I was, you know, putting laundry away or something. And I heard my dad outside of my bedroom, go, “Oh, sorry. I didn’t know you were home.” And so I walked out of the room. And I was like, “What do you mean?” And he was like, “Oh, I was just talking to Danny,” my husband, and my husband has really long black hair. And we had this like, curtain up that was separating all of our stuff, so that you couldn’t really see it when you’re walking through the shotgun style basement. And I said, “Danny’s not home. He’s at work. It’s you know, like a Wednesday, he works nine to five.” And my dad goes, “Well, I just saw him pop his head out of the curtain over there.” And I was like, “Well, he’s not home. I’m the only one home,” and my husband is a trickster, so we looked all over the basement to see if he got off work early and was just trying to scare us. And he wasn’t there, and I was like,” I’m really creeped out, you seriously saw him?” And my dad was like, “Ah, don’t worry about it, it’s fine.” So that’s always how my dad seems to react to these stories. But that is–those are my three doppelganger stories.
Jim Harold
Now, do you think it was something about the physical place everyone was in at the time when these things happen? Do you think it’s something about, maybe your family is more prone to seeing these kind of things? Like you’re more sensitive? What do you think?
Whitney
I think it’s my dad. Because I’ve never experienced any kind of doppelganger stuff unless my dad is there. And my dad and my sister have kind of a similar energy. They’re both really magnetic people. And they both kind of have this light about them. And I–and they both have had very, very creepy things happen to them. My sister has a great story that I want her call in to tell you. But they both have a lot of stuff happen to them. I think it’s them that you know, things draw to.
Jim Harold
Interesting. Interesting. Well, you know, the doppelganger thing, I’ve said this many times, I’d heard about it before I started doing the shows. But as you know, as a longtime listener, 10 years, my goodness, that the doppelganger thing just keeps coming up, and keeps coming and keeps coming up.
Dana
Yeah.
Jim Harold
And it is–it’s the real deal. I mean, it happens. And it’s fascinating to me, how it always seems to revolve around haunted places, or, you know, I never–I never thought about it being paranormal per se before I started doing these shows. But boy, now I think it is. And it’s fascinating. And I believe it’s real. I believe it’s real.
Dana
Absolutely. Yeah.
Jim Harold
Well, Dana, thank you so much for sharing your story on the Campfire. I appreciate it. And thank you for listening for 10 years. And if you’d like to, would you like to give your twin sister a spooky shout out by first name?
Dana
Sure. Her name is Leslie. I would love a spooky shout out.
Jim Harold
Well, Leslie, thank you so much for listening, and stay spooky. And Dana, thank you for sharing your story on the Campfire.
Dana
Thanks, Jim.
Jim Harold
Next up on the Campfire is Kristy. Her sister, Linda, told her about the show. So we certainly appreciate that. She’s calling in from Oregon. And she’s going to share with us a very poignant story, Kristy, thank you for joining us. And thank you for sharing your story.
Kristy
Well, thank you, Jim, for letting me share the story on the Campfire. About 12 years ago, my dad passed away from a brain tumor. But when he was first diagnosed, he brought us together, and we’re very spiritual family. And, and he talked about, “Let’s not let this get us down, let’s, you know, come in unity together.” And he said, “I’m–right now I’m going to run so that Satan can’t keep up with me,” or the adversary, whatever you want to call it.
Jim Harold
Right.
Kristy
And so our motto was let’s run for a while. And it was very helpful, of course, and still to this day, we say it all the time to each other. Um, well, not too long ago, my brother passed from suicide.
Jim Harold
Oh, I’m sorry.
Kristy
And, yeah, to say it’s devastating, you know, it doesn’t even come close. And I know a lot of your callers can empathize with that. But as we were cleaning out his apartment, my sister cleaned out his room, and we came back in to vacuum and she started crying. And I said, “What’s wrong?” And she picked up a dime, and she showed it to me. And she said, “Have you heard about the dime?” And I hadn’t until that point. And for those that don’t know, it’s, a lot of people feel like dimes come up, or pennies–
Jim Harold
Right.
Kristy
–in random areas, you know, to show your loved ones are with you. And I thought that was very special. But I–not too long after that I–I’ve had suicidal thoughts where I’ve had to be hospitalized. And it kind of came to that point again, where I couldn’t keep up with life. And I’ll just put it that way. And I started to make a plan, and started to follow through with that plan. And I was in the car, and all of a sudden I had this overwhelming feeling it was almost physical. Like my dad was sitting in the seat next to me. And I just kept hearing, “Go to inpatient, go to inpatient,” and I kept fighting, I was like, “I’ve done that before it was not helpful, it was not good experience.” And, you know, through that, and a very loving husband, and a wonderful cousin I, I decided to go to inpatient that night. And right now, with COVID you have to go through the ER, and as I was walking back with the nurse, I just started to panic. I don’t know what it was, I started to panic, I thought, “I can run out right now.” And as I went to turn to run away, I felt my brother next to me, almost like a physical person was next to me. And I knew he knew what I was thinking. And he knew how I felt. And I felt like he was sitting with me that night, and kept me there.
Jim Harold
Wow.
Kristy
So I went into inpatient, and it was very helpful. It was very, very helpful. And one of the nights we watched Lion King of all movies, but it’s when Mufasa tell Simba, “Go reclaim your throne, I am with you, you are king,” and Simba ran, he ran back. And all of a sudden, I had that feeling of my dad. And the words, let’s run for a while, came into my mind.
Jim Harold
Mhmm.
Kristy
And I felt that with my higher power, that I could reclaim my life, my life back. So I go home. And they give you a little paper bag with your clothes in it. And they wash just your clothes, and put it in a paper bag and give it to you. And I was cleaning it out. And I looked down. And I saw a dime at the bottom of the paper bag.
Jim Harold
Aha.
Kristy
And I just started crying because I knew I felt them. But it was almost like they, or God, or whoever also gave me a physical reminder that they were there. I’ve never found a dime before in odd places. I’ve never found those since. But it’s very special for me. And I really do feel like our loved ones are with us to help us and assist us.
Jim Harold
I do. I believe that too, Kristy, very much. And I’m so glad that your brother was with you there, and through these messages you decided to carry on. My goodness, you know, it’s–life is tough. And–and the main thing is you got to know you gotta keep on going. I do want to say this because anytime this topic comes up, I always like to mention this, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, it’s available 24 hours, seven days a week, and it’s 1-800-273-8255. And if you’re having any kind of suicidal thoughts or need help, please do reach out to them. 1-800-273-8255. Kristy, thank you so much for joining us. And I do believe very much that our family members are there for us after they pass.
Kristy
Thank you.
Jim Harold
And they get in–they get their message through some way.
Kristy
Yes, yes. And I could just add to the suicide hotline, I see people put on Facebook, if you need anything, please call me. And I’d like to add to that. Sometimes it’s too hard to call and explain everything. So you could always add, here’s a code word, I’m having a bad day or say the code word and say, No explanation needed. I will call you, text you, help you with whatever you need. And it’s almost like throwing a lifeline that someone easily can grab. And that’s something that would be helpful for me. And I just thought I’d throw it out there for people.
Jim Harold
Well, thank you for sharing. And thank you so much for being a part of the Campfire.
Kristy
Thank you, Jim. I really appreciate it.
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Jim Harold
Andrew is on the line from the Boston area. So glad to have him on the show. And he’s going to share a family story. This story comes from his mother, and it’s about his grandfather’s passing in 1995. Andrew, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. And please tell us your story.
Andrew
Jim, yeah, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, yeah. So you mentioned this is a story, it came from my mother, about my grandfather passing back in 1995. And, you know, this past summer, we had a cousin of ours, my cousin on my mom’s side pass away, and my mother and I kind of got together, and we’re just talking about, you know, death, and the afterlife, and things like that. We both kind of believe that, you know, there’s something on the other side, you know, another realm, you know, something that has to be. You know, consciousness is a very interesting thing. And just, you know, kind of share those beliefs. And so I asked my mom, I was like, you know, “Mommy, I listen to these podcasts, these shows people tell these stories all the time. And do you happen to have anything that happened to you in your past?” And she said, you know, immediately, she was like, “Yeah, actually, I really do. Um, it was actually when your grandfather passed away, back in 1995.” And so, you know, he, he was not doing well, in the hospital, you know, the whole family was kind of there, night of, kind of knew it was coming to a close pretty soon. And, but you know, my mom, and before that, you know, my mother and grandfather very close, she comes from a family of seven total, you know, sisters and brothers. And they were very close, you know, she was–she was second born, which allowed me obviously, me–to become very close to my grandfather as well. But, you know, the night it happened, she left the hospital to go home. And she said, she got this phone call, you know, right at like three–past three o’clock. And so she kind of picked up, you know, thinking, you know, maybe it was something that happened or something like that. And she picked up, and nobody was really on the other line, it was just kind of complete, complete silence. So she was kind of like, you know, “Hello, hello?” You know, nothing, nobody there. So, you know, thinking maybe somebody dialed the wrong number or something. So she kind of hung up. And it wasn’t until a few hours later, I think, like, right past five, that she got another phone call. And I believe it was from my aunt or grandmother, one of the two, who had said, you know, “Your dad passed away.” And she was like, “Okay,” you know, and they said, “Terry, you know, come down, meet us at the hospital, we’ll go over everything, we’ll talk about it.” So she went down there. And, you know, as soon as she arrived, she was asking, you know, my grandmother, her sisters, you know, the hospital, you know, “Did anybody kind of call me at three o’clock in the morning?” And they all kind of look at her like, you know, “The hospital called us, like, you know, right around five, like an hour or so after it happened, an hour and a half. And told us, you know, come down and go through the routine and everything.” And so my mom was just kind of like, you know, taken aback, you know, like, “Okay, nobody kind of really called me.” My mother didn’t know anything about it. And so, you know, after that, she walked away and it just always kind of stuck with her. And so yeah, after she told me that story, it was just really interesting. And I was like, Oh, you know, that really is very weird and interesting. You know, they talk about the witching hour, that three o’clock thing–
Jim Harold
Sure.
Andrew
–them being very close, and things like that. So it’s like, you know, maybe it was, you know, grandpa, your dad reaching out and saying, you know, he had he passed away, you know, sad things like that. Cuz you know I’ve heard some stories coming from you guys, podcasts on this as well. Something similar, you know, dead loved ones reaching out whether it’s–
Jim Harold
Right.
Andrew
–a phone call, text, something like that. So I just thought it was really cool. I just think–I just really wanted to share with your listeners, and just–nothing as weird happened to me like that. But it’s just really a really cool story and interesting too.
Jim Harold
Well I do think we’ve had a lot of people who have called and said there have been signs at the time of death of a loved one. We recently had a very poignant and powerful one. And you know, this happened to my wife.
Andrew
Oh yeah?
Jim Harold
When my father-in-law passed–I’ve said this numerous times on the show, so if you’ve heard it, I apologize. My mother-in-law–I don’t know if I said father-in-law there, but I meant mother-in-law passed. Um, she had a vision of Mary. And her mom was Catholic, and was very into Mary. So she had a vision of Mary. And within a half hour she got the call that her mom died. And while her mom was very ill, there was no expectation that there was going to be any immediate death that evening or anything like that. So we’ve lived it. And I believe that our loved ones get that message across one way or another many times. It is very, very powerful. Well, Andrew, thank you so much for sharing your story and for being a part of the Campfire today.
Andrew
Of course, Jim, thank you so much.
Jim Harold
Brianne is on the line from Georgia. So glad to have her, she said she listens to a lot of Paranormal Podcast and of course, the Campfire, and we’re so glad to have her as a listener and now as a caller, and she has a bit of a head scratcher for us. Brianne, welcome to the show, tell us what happened.
Brianne
Okay, so this involves my granny. And my granny unfortunately had Alzheimer’s disease. And basically, she had it my entire life. So because of that, it kind of robbed me of getting to have any kind of relationship with her
Jim Harold
I’m sorry.
Brianne
She didn’t really know, I don’t think she knew who I was. She would always call me my sister’s name. So in that way, it was not fun. Either that or she thought I was a baby still, and my mom would correct her and say, “No, that’s Brianne.” She’d be like, “Oh, Brianne’s a baby,” I don’t know,
Jim Harold
Right.
Brianne
So this one particular day, we had actually been really busy. And I remember this was in the fall, but I don’t remember what year. And in the fall, what I like to do is save all my money from my birthday, and all my chores, and any money I ever got. I saved it. Because at that point in time, the only way that you could get spooky books was to go to the bookstore.
Jim Harold
Right.
Brianne
So I really wanted to go to the mall to go to the bookstore. But my mom was like, “No, we’re gonna go see your granny because we haven’t been in a couple of weeks because we’ve been so busy.” And I was being kind of a brat. And I was like, “Fine we can go.” At this point in time, my granny like, she was basically non-responsive, like she couldn’t talk, she would occasionally make eye contact with you, but it was very rare. So when we went to visit her, we just basically kind of would talk to her and say like, “This is what’s going on. We’ve been doing these things.” And me being a brat, I just like kind of sat in a chair in the corner, you know, arms crossed. And as–I watched as my mom talked to my granny, and my granny either would open her eyes and look everywhere but at my mom, or she would close her eyes. But as I kind of kept watching my mom talk to her, I kept hearing this little noise, almost like somebody whispering in my ear, like (imitates whisper noise), but I couldn’t understand what they were trying to say.
Jim Harold
Hmm.
Brianne
And I would look around, and my mom would look at me like, “What are you–what is your deal?” And I was like, “You don’t hear that whispering?” And she was like, “No.” So it continued to happen. But then I realized it was not something that was external. It was happening in my head. And so I was like, “Okay, what is happening?” So I’m weirded out. And I think my mom, like, my mom also would bring pictures. And she would be like, “You know who this is? This is this is your husband.” And, at one point in time, I guess my mom got kind of frustrated or sad and was like, “I wish you could just tell me what my name is.” And in my head, as clear as a bell, I heard somebody say, “Nancy.”
Jim Harold
Hmmm.
Brianne
And I jumped up, because that’s my mom’s name. And when I looked up, my grandmother was staring straight at me. And then she closed her eyes. And I told my mom what happened. And she was like, “Well, let’s see if she can do it again.” And I was like, “I hope not,” because it was so freaky. And she kept trying to ask her questions, but my grandmother just was asleep, basically. And I didn’t hear the whispering anymore. It never happened again. I have never had anything like that happen before or since. It was really freaky. And the only thing I can think is that particular day, the universe was like, You need to go see your granny, stop acting like a brat (laughs).
Jim Harold
(Laughs)
Brianne
I have no explanation for it. But it was very cool, but freaky at the same time.
Jim Harold
Yeah. Well, it is interesting how, how messages are gotten to you, you know, and it’s like, hey, the books can wait.
Brianne
Right.
Jim Harold
Well, Brianne, thank you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. And thank you for sharing that, definitely a head scratcher. Appreciate you being a part of the Campfire today.
Brianne
All right, thank you.
Jim Harold
Bailey is on the line from Utah. What a beautiful state. I got to go there a number of years ago and was just blown away by the beauty of the mountains and everything, great state. And Bailey is going to tell us about a strange dream. But first, we got to take care of some important business. Bailey says her parents got her into the Campfire, into listening to the Campfire. And I want to say a special spooky shout out to Jerry and Karen. So thank you guys for telling Bailey about the show. And Bailey, thank you for joining us to share your story about a strange dream.
Bailey
Thanks, Jim. Of course, it’s a pleasure to be on the show. Um, so this dream happened a little while ago. About a year ago, I was in a small apartment with my husband. We had been there for a few months by this point. Um, so we were still, I guess, getting adjusted. And I have weird dreams all the time. But none of them have added up to this one. This one is probably the weirdest one I’ve had. Um, I had this dream, where I was laying in my bed with my husband, and I sit up, and the lights are on in the room. And I look over to our dresser, and there’s this little girl standing in front of the dresser.
Jim Harold
Huh.
Bailey
Yeah. With her back to me. And I don’t know about you, Jim. But when I have dreams, I kind of can tell that they’re fake. But this one felt extremely real. And I turn over to my husband who’s still asleep. And I shake him awake. I’m like, “Jackson, hey do you see this? Like, do you see this girl standing in front of our dresser?” And he goes, “Yeah, I see her.” And then she starts talking to me. And she’s tells me, “Hey, like, I’ve been kidnapped. And this is where I’m staying.” And she like, described this house to me. And then she gave me this lady’s phone number. And she’s like, “This lady is the lady that lured me in. And I need you to come help me. And this is her phone number. And she’s–” She described to me how the lady lured her in and was like, “Hey, she used like this dog to like, lure me into this house. And so now I’m stuck here and I need your help.” And so I was like, frantically trying to get out of my bed and trying to find my phone. And then all of a sudden, I wake up for real.
Jim Harold
Huh.
Bailey
And I was like, it took me a second to adjust because I thought that I was still dreaming. And I was like, okay, that was weird. And then I think I just kind of shrugged it off and went back to sleep. And then I wake up the next morning, and I go, “Hey,” I talked to my husband and I was like, “do you remember me waking you up last night?” He’s like, “No, I don’t think you did that.” I was like, “Oh, okay.” And then I realized that all of our lights were on in the house, every single one.
Jim Harold
Hmm.
Bailey
And that was freaky because neither my husband or I walk in our sleep. We’ve never done that before. And I sleep talk, I’ve been known to do that. But very rarely have it–has it, you know, I don’t think I’ve ever gotten up and turned all of our lights on. And I’ve never been able to shrug that off. And I just thought that was weird. And I brought it up to my dad, because my dad’s really into this spooky stuff, right? And I’ve been kind of a skeptic for a while. But recently kind of changed that. I’m more of–was just kind of scared of all of this stuff. And so I just kind of avoided it. But I changed my perspective. And so I brought it up to my dad because he’s kind of into this spooky stuff a lot.
Jim Harold
Right.
Bailey
And so I told him about the dream. I’m like, “Am I just overreacting? Is it just a dream?” And he’s like, “You know, actually,” he kind of–he thought that there was something more to it as well. And so I actually dove into it. And I’ve been trying to look into it and see, like I might be a little bit paranoid, but I looked it up on the missing persons website. I looked for girls that match this girl’s description. I still remember what she looked like, she had like, this night gown on and like, she had longer darker hair and I–and she was probably no younger than like seven, or probably younger than that even, I don’t know. But it was freaky. Like I still can’t get past it, and it’s–and everyone I brought it up to is like, “I think you’re probably just overreacting,” but no, it’s just like I can still remember in strong detail the dream. And usually after I wake up, I can’t remember what happened in the dream, let alone the details. So yeah.
Jim Harold
Wow. Well, so it made that much of an impression, and you think it may be a spirit calling out for help?
Bailey
Yeah, actually, I did–that thought did occur to me after doing some research. And like, maybe it was just some lost spirit that was asking for help. And I haven’t actually dove into the history of our last apartment to see maybe if there’s like a history there, or what, but I mean, it was a pretty new apartment. So I don’t see that being a possibility. But I really do think that it was some spirit calling out for help, Jim.
Jim Harold
Well, once again, you know, I–again, I think things happen in very strange ways in this universe. And I think it’s entirely possible, entirely possible. Maybe it was. Well, please let us know if you find anything out. And again, thank you. And thank your parents, Jerry and Karen, and we appreciate you being a part of the Campfire tonight.
Bailey
Of course, Jim. Thanks a lot.
Jim Harold
Next up on the Campfire is Ivan, calling from California. And he’s been listening for a few years, and we appreciate it. And he’s gonna tell a family story, and it’s a scary one. Ivan, welcome to the show. Tell us what happened.
Ivan
Hi. Yes. So it all started when my sister, my twin sister and I, we were watching Treasure Planet, and we fall asleep on the couch. The next thing I remember is waking up–my mom woke me up. And she was saying that, “Hurry up, wake up, the pastor’s coming.” And I was like, “Okay, what, what’s going on?” And I look at my sister, and her eyes are just red, and like tears were coming down her face–
Jim Harold
Huh.
Ivan
–and she’s–yes. And she says, “Oh, Celeste just saw something. So I called the pastor over. I don’t know what to do.” So a few minutes later, the pastor and pastor’s wife come over with his kid. And my mom tells him what happened. And my sister had seen–she woke up from watching Treasure Planet. And towards the TV, she saw a red, kind of red figure, kind of ghost-like.
Jim Harold
Oh.
Ivan
But it was red. She said that it had like big, bushy eyes and talons for claws.
Jim Harold
Oh man.
Ivan
Yeah, no feet. It was kind of like a Casper type of tail type of thing. Just like hovering. So my mom tells the pastor that Celeste saw a demon, but didn’t explain–didn’t explain how it looked. So the pastor starts praying around the house, anointing the house with oil, typical Pentecostal, Christian type of thing to do.
Jim Harold
Mm hmm.
Ivan
He starts praying, and he starts speaking in tongues. So there’s a wife. And then out of nowhere, the husband says to his son, Frank, to move away from the window really quick. So he moves. And it was as if a gust of wind had blown out the house. And the windows shook really violently. And the pastor’s wife just kind of like, was in disbelief. She was kind of speechless, and she looks over to her husband and says, “Did you see that, honey?” And he says, “Yeah, I saw it.” And then the pastor’s wife turns over to my sister and explains how the demon looked and she says, “The demon was red with like tails and black eyes.” And my sister just like nodded, yes, because she was like, so scared. She had not spoken ever since she had woken up. And after that day, just weird stuff started happening. But yeah, that that was day there was, like a demon in the house.
Jim Harold
So, so the cleansing–your theory is maybe the cleansing didn’t work, because strange things continued to happen. Is that right?
Ivan
Yeah. But then we later on found out–because we had a knot that was sitting with us. And after paranormal stuff started happening around the house, it just wasn’t stopping. My mom called the pastor over again. And she said, “You know what, there must be something in the house that just isn’t leaving.” And my mom always knew that my aunt had dabbled in the occult. And she was staying with us for a while because she was going through a rough period. So one day when she was gone, my mom went into her room and saw that she had a bucket of water with a candle and burnt paper in it.
Jim Harold
Hmm.
Ivan
Um, blew out the candle, looked underneath and saw the website. She looked up the website, and it turned out that it was an occult shop. And then a week later, my aunt’s boyfriend came over, and was looking through her drawers. And he saw a picture that she had of him in a Ziploc bag with dirt and some other stuff in there. So she was dabbling in the occult in the house. So we think like the clashing of like, God, and like demonic forces–there was like a spiritual warfare going on in the house at all times.
Jim Harold
Does your family still have the house?
Ivan
No, we ended up moving.
Jim Harold
And did that activity continue throughout the time you had the house?
Ivan
Oh, yeah. Continued. It got worse, actually.
Jim Harold
What’s one of the things that happened?
Ivan
Well, one of the strangest ones that happened was my mom had this really large, heavy marble bed. And my little sister, Rosie, and she was around three, she had a little toy duck that kind of like quacked whenever you touched it. The duck ended up falling underneath the bed. And one night, we were all sleeping, and the bed shook by that lamp–we were all sleeping on my mom’s bed. And the bed just shook. Which was weird, because there wasn’t an earthquake or anything. So my mom woke up. And when she woke up, she saw like, a wooden figure just right above her. And my mom reached out to touch it. And she said that it felt like bark.
Jim Harold
Hmm.
Ivan
And when she looked around, she couldn’t find my little sister Rosie. So the next morning, she asked Rosie, “Where were you at? Why did you go inside the closet?” And Rosie responded with, “Oh, it’s because I see monsters at night.” And my mom was–Rosie had the tendency to go in the closet every night. And my mom never knew why until this instance. So it turns out Rosie had been seeing monsters in the house for quite a while. And that same night, I woke up with sleep paralysis where I was like shouting for my mom and I couldn’t. And I just felt like this heavy presence and like needles coming out of my–my face.
Jim Harold
Mm hmm.
Ivan
Yeah, just a whole bunch of other stuff kept going on around the house. And my aunt wouldn’t leave. So we eventually just sold the house later on.
Jim Harold
Well, I can understand that. I can understand that. Ivan, thank you for listening for these years. And thank you for being a part of Campfire and sharing your story.
Ivan
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Jim Harold
Susie is on the line from New York. Now, she’s been on the show before, and we’re so glad to have her on again. And she’s gonna tell us–we’ve been talking about JOTT, about things, losing things, and turning up in mysterious places. It’s not exactly that, but it’s kind of like half of that. And some mysterious appearances, I guess you would say. Susie, welcome to the show. Welcome back, and please tell us this. I’ve never heard quite this story before.
Susie
Thanks, Jim. Neither have I. But I don’t know. So ever since I was little, I will see random playing cards just in random places. Hiking trails, just in my car. Very odd. Well, I remember the first time, I think I was like four or five. And I remember my grandparents had a garden, and I was picking strawberries with my grandpa. And I looked over and I saw this single playing card. It looked like a brand new card. It wasn’t torn. It wasn’t worn. It wasn’t warped, nothing. It just looked like a brand new card, just that was out of a playing card pack. And I went, “Oh, look at that.” And he looked at me, “He goes, huh. That’s weird. Look at that. Wonder where they came from.” And he said, “We’re just gonna leave it.” So I said, “Okay, Pop-pop.” So just throughout the years, just I will find random playing cards in random places. And it had no specific type. Um, you know, it’ll be a heart, to diamond, club, spade, you know, it’s just–I can’t explain it. I don’t know what it is. And I’ve never heard anybody saying, “Oh, yeah, that’s happened to me.” So I don’t know. It’s just weird.
Jim Harold
Do the appearances correlate in any way to any kind of happening in your life or anything, positive or not so positive?
Susie
Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t. It’s really odd. The one that I found on a hiking trail in Los Angeles, two weeks later I found out I was pregnant with my son.
Jim Harold
Hmm, well that’s interesting.
Susie
It was. It was odd.
Jim Harold
I don’t know how to explain that. I’d be curious if anybody out there has ever had this experience. We’d love to hear it because I’ve heard of coins turning up. A lot of people find coins turning up. But that’s not as unusual because, you know, just even with credit cards, most of us deal with coins at one time or another. A lot of people say, they believe that, you know, a loved one might leave pennies, or nickels, or dimes, or something as a sign and those kind of things, but I’ve never heard playing cards. And you mentioned in your email, you may have mentioned it while you were speaking there, and I missed it, you don’t actually own playing cards.
Susie
No, I don’t play cards. I have no affiliation with like, Atlantic City, or Las Vegas, or any gambling, casinos or anything. I–or magic, none of that. So it’s really strange that I would find these random cards. Yeah, that is weird.
Jim Harold
Well, folks, it is out there. If anybody else has experienced what Susie has, with just the appearance of strange playing cards, please let us know. Because I don’t know what it means. But it–but it is wild. It is wild.
Susie
Yeah. Yeah. I even asked my sisters. Nobody’s ever experienced it either.
Jim Harold
Nobody else. Yeah. Maybe it’s something meant just for you.
Susie
Maybe, maybe. I hope it’s something good.
Jim Harold
I hope so too. Susie, thank you for being a part, once again, of the Campfire.
Susie
Thank you so much, Jim. Happy Holidays.
Jim Harold
Happy Holidays. Zach is on the line from California. And we’re so glad he is. He’s a new listener. And he signed up to tell his story right away. And we’re going to talk about his grandmother’s house, and some strangeness that ensued. Zach, welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us tonight.
Zach
Thanks, Jim. So I’m from Sacramento County. And let’s say–about–when I was 10 years old, my grandmother, she moved into a new house. And this new house, you know, my cousin happened to live with her. And the whole family would revolve around my grandma. So we’d always go over to her house. And I just remember, there’s–some weird things happening. It started out with just, you know, it feels like somebody’s watching over your shoulder, when you’d be at our house, you know, you’d be at the computer desk, and you just feel like, just a weird, like, vibe in the air. And then I would say nothing too bad happened, you know, for the first few years. But I’d say when I was about 13, my cousin and my brother, we were in the living room. And then my grandma was sleeping. We kept hearing her door open and close and open and close. And you know, I’m thinking like, it’s kind of weird, but maybe it’s just the wind. So we told my little cousin to get up and close her door. And he gets up and we hear the door latch. Well, then it starts opening and closing again. And just like, really, really strange. And then you know, there’s my little cousin as well. She was pretty young, and she was afraid to go into the, you know, that area in the hallway, or in the garage my grandma had. Anyway, fast forward. Probably a couple months later. We’re in my cousin’s room, and we’re talking, and my grandma was gone at the time. So just–just me and him at the house. And then out of nowhere, we just heard like a blood curdling scream from someone’s–like the top of someone’s lungs, in the hallway, and like, it really spooked us out. And you know, we went out from his room to check in the hallway. And, you know, there–there was absolutely nothing. And then we brought it up to my grandmother, and my aunts, they kind of like, you know, shrugged it off and kind of like, put it off as us being young and having an imagination. But then I would say, a few months after that, we were–I was hanging out with my cousin again. And then nowhere, my aunt, she was in the living room. And then she–she came running into our room and she said, “Did you guys go into the garage?” And then we’re like, “No, why do you ask?” She was saying out of the corner of her eye, she’d seen someone run by, and yell for their mother and then open and close the garage door. And I just thought that was really creepy, I mean not too much happened after that. But we always had like a weird vibe from that house.
Jim Harold
Sure. Well, I can understand why. I mean, that seems pretty strange to me.
Zach
Yeah. And, you know, our little cousin would refuse to go into certain areas. She was just terrified of it. And we weren’t really sure why. But I mean, even to this day, I’m a little bit like skeptical on things, but I just–that’s just some weird things that I couldn’t explain at the time.
Jim Harold
Now, so you don’t have any theories as to who it could be or what, what it is or anything like that, do you think?
Zach
No I’m not sure, I think a few years later, when I was a little bit older, I tried to look up some information on the place, and I couldn’t find anything out, but it was just like, it’s just really strange. Like, I don’t know how to explain it. It’s just a very weird thing.
Jim Harold
Well, I’ll tell you those things do exist, Zach, they do exist, and your family obviously experienced it. Thank you for coming on the show and sharing your experience.
Zach
Thank you.
Jim Harold
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