Monsters and Monster Fest – Paranormal Podcast 779

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A decade of making movies about real life monsters is a fascinating way to make a living. Seth Breedlove has done just that but he’s just getting started.

He shares his own Bigfoot encounter, his thoughts on monsters and how his viewpoint has changed over the years.

You can see Seth, me and a ton of cryptozoology’s biggest personalites at his upcoming STM Monster Fest on June 3, 2023 in Canton, Ohio. 

Get your tickets HERE.

Thanks Seth!

TRANSCRIPT

JIM HAROLD: Two quick notes before we get started with this edition of the Paranormal Podcast.

I hope you’ll join me on my tour. Jimharold.com/tour. We’ll be in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Boston, and New York. Get your tickets now while you can: jimharold.com/tour.

And I will also be appearing at the Small Town Monsters Monster Fest, which we’re going to talk about on today’s show, in Canton, Ohio. That will be Friday, June 2nd. They’re going to have a movie premiere, and then they are going to have an actual day of events, podcast recordings – I’m going to record the Campfire live – and a lot of fun. That’ll be on Saturday, June 3rd in Canton, Ohio, and you can get your tickets for that at smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. That’s smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. And we will talk about that more during this episode right here.

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This is the Paranormal Podcast with Jim Harold.

JIM HAROLD: Welcome to the Paranormal Podcast. I am Jim Harold. So glad to be with you once again. One of my favorite content creators, one of my favorite people in the world of the supernatural, is our guest today. I am talking about the one and only Seth Breedlove, the man who has basically created a movie studio in Ohio. He’s doing it his way, and he’s doing a great job with Small Town Monsters. He’s gone from strength to strength with streaming his movies, doing it his own way. He’s got a huge following. He doesn’t need any big TV networks or anything; he is the network, and it is so cool. And he’s got a super cool event coming up, and I’ll be there recording a live Campfire show. I’m talking about Monster Fest 2023 coming up June 3rd, 2023, in Canton, Ohio – the birthplace of football, if I remember correctly. Seth, welcome to the show.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Thanks for having me, Jim. I always say this, but we’re all following in your footsteps, because you were the pioneer when it comes to the independent paranormal content stuff.

JIM HAROLD: Thank you, thank you.

SETH BREEDLOVE: We’re chasing after your shadow.

JIM HAROLD: I don’t know about that, but I certainly consider you a kindred spirit. I think we have similar philosophies; we don’t want somebody in some ivory tower saying, “You’ve got to do it this way, you’ve got to do it that way.” We prefer to put it out there and let it sink or swim on its own, and I think it’s cool. So hats off to you, sir. You are an example I’d provide to anybody.

I had talked to some students here at a local university, and they were video students – because I originally started out as a video guy in school. It was my alma mater. I told them, “That’s the guy you need to check into. Don’t worry about going off to Hollywood. Look at what he’s doing.” It doesn’t have to be about the paranormal; it can be about anything. But these days, there’s the distribution, there’s the equipment – all you really need is hard work and your ability to put something out there. It is a whole new world, isn’t it?

SETH BREEDLOVE: It is. I’ve done that, too, the college student talks. I usually give one or two a year. The thing I tell people is just go make what you want to make. Whatever you’re wanting to create or whatever you’re wanting to do in video or podcasting or whatever, audio, whatever, just go do it. The means are there at this point to make this stuff happen without it costing you an arm and a leg. It’s not possible to duplicate what you and I have done as far as your path’s going to be totally different. I don’t feel like anyone’s path is going to exactly mirror what either of ours has been. But you’re going to be able to establish your own whatever you’re going to do, and whatever you want to do is doable now because of digital media.

JIM HAROLD: Yeah, I agree. It’s doable. Very doable, so I encourage everybody, go out and make something – a podcast, a movie, whatever you want to do. It’s doable. Go do it. You don’t need permission. But let’s get on to some of the stuff that you do make.

Earlier this year, you rolled out something called Last Frontier. Tell us about Last Frontier.

SETH BREEDLOVE: On the Trail of Bigfoot: The Last Frontier was the first of our duo of Alaskan Bigfoot movies. We went to Alaska – I think you and I talked about this to some degree, but last year we went in May to Alaska for what was supposed to be a one-movie shoot, and then we had some other YouTube content being created on the trip. But we ended up with so many interviews – close to 20 interviews from First Nations people to local Bigfoot hunters to witnesses, all that kind of stuff – we ended up with so much in the way of interviews, and then also there was a line of exploration that we ended up tracking across those interviews that inspired a second movie called Land of the Missing.

But Last Frontier came out in January. It focuses on establishing the rich history of Bigfoot sightings and Bigfoot culture in Alaska, and then it dovetails into the second movie that takes it in a very dark direction because there’s a specific mythology that’s grown up around Bigfoot in Alaska that involves missing people. So that inspired the second movie.

But Last Frontier is like your wide-eyed, naïve exploration of Bigfoot in the 49th state. It’s got all the amazing scenery that that state has to offer. We were there 17 days. We filmed across all four or five sections of the state, from the coastal regions to – we were in Denali, we were up by Anchorage. We moved all throughout the state. We did a helicopter expedition up to the top of this mountain that was really amazing. We went out on a boat, which did not end well for me, but went out on a boat. We did everything you could want to do to actually experience Alaska as it is, and all through the lens of the Sasquatch topic there. Learning about what it is that people think Bigfoot is, from a spiritual creature to some sort of undiscovered ape to an ice giant.

It’s a very broad, wide-reaching look at Bigfoot in Alaska, and we were extremely excited about how it was received. It came out I think January 11th, and I just checked it the other day and it’s still in the top 20 documentaries on the platform. We’re approaching over three months now.

JIM HAROLD: That’s amazing. I’ve got to ask you about your thoughts on Bigfoot. I’ve got to say, all the stuff I cover on my shows – everything from ghosts to UFOs to cryptids – the one thing I have a little difficulty with, and maybe I’m a little more skeptical than I am about other things, is Bigfoot. One day I’ll say to myself, “They haven’t found this, they haven’t found that. They haven’t found a body. Why not?” But then I think about some of the people who have reported these kinds of things, people who seem to be very credible, people who have knowledge of the great outdoors and of wilderness, forestry workers, hunters, people who know a bear when they see a bear, those kind of things. So I go back and forth.

Where are you? I think we’ve had this discussion before; I think you started more along the skeptical route in terms of your belief in these things. How has that journey gone with you, and what are your thoughts on the possibility of a real Bigfoot at this point?

SETH BREEDLOVE: I saw one over a year ago.

JIM HAROLD: There you go.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, I’m in the knower camp at this point. At least, I’m 99.9% certain that there is. But you can only interview so many people about their sightings and hear so many commonalities between these sightings and the behavior and things like that before you start to really question whether or not these things can be real. A lot of people come at this from “this is a fun topic to get into,” just because the mythology is really rich and the history of the subject is so interesting, but the longer you’re in it, you’re going to go one of two ways. You’re either going to become fully on board that these things are real, or you’re going to get driven so far in the opposite direction that you walk away from the subject. That seems to be how it is. And I went, obviously, into the believer camp. Which is not a term I love when it comes to Bigfoot.

But yeah, they’re there and they’re real. I have no idea what they are. My personal opinion still is that it’s some sort of undiscovered ape species. What I saw was a bright, hair-covered creature that was maybe six, six and a half feet tall. It wasn’t very big, it wasn’t very broad. Honestly, it was bolting across an opening, and it looked more like a bear running on two legs than it did like a Bigfoot. But I also saw it for maybe a second, and it was moving so quickly, there wasn’t a lot of time to take in a lot of the detail. But yeah, I’m firmly in the camp that they’re real.

JIM HAROLD: I love the intellectual honesty, because you came as someone who said, “Eh, I don’t know about this stuff. I’m interested, but I don’t know that I’m a believer” – I know you don’t like that word, but I’ll use it anyway, sorry – a believer. But then you said, “Hey, I’m willing to listen to the evidence. I’m willing to listen to these people tell your story.” And then you have your own experience. I think that’s one thing that, both on the true believer side of any of this stuff and the skeptical side, we have too many people who say, “I know what I know and I’m not willing to accept new information.” So I applaud you for that.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, and there does come a point where if you don’t have an experience for yourself, you really do start to question the validity of all this stuff. Any time I talk to someone who doesn’t think Bigfoot is real, I’m on board. I get it. I get where they’re coming from because I came from that same place myself.

And I don’t have the answers as to why we don’t have a body or why we don’t have better video. Some of the audio we have is interesting. Some of the track casts are interesting. But there’s only so many track casts you can look at and sounds of screaming in the woods that you can listen to before you ask, “Why don’t we have a specimen on a slab somewhere?” Or at least part of a body or a skull or something. There has to be a population of these things in the woods, which means eventually you would think we’d come across something. But we don’t. Why is that? I have no idea. All I know is they’re out there; I just don’t know what they are.

JIM HAROLD: Indeed. Well, a lot of likeminded individuals are going to be joining you, including me, for this big event coming up on June 3rd, 2023, Monster Fest 2023. We’re going to be a live Campfire recording there. Really excited about that. So tell us, what is the concept of Monster Fest? I know you said it’s your dream event. Tell us what it is and what folks can expect if they decide to take you up on it and be there in Canton on June 3rd.

SETH BREEDLOVE: We did an event in Minerva back in 2015 and 2016 called Minerva Monster Day. That was where I first started conceptualizing this event. We’ve all seen events like this, where it’s got this guest list of people who are experts and personalities within the field.

There’s one thing I was very conscientious of when we were putting the event together, and that was – you and I have talked about this – a lot of these events leave podcasters out of the guest list, which has never made sense to me. I am 100% open about the fact that I would not be into any of this stuff if it wasn’t for podcasts. So when we were putting the guest list together, you were right at the top, the Astonishing Legends guys were at the top.

JIM HAROLD: Yeah, Scott and Forrest will be there. Shannon LeGro.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, Shannon. I wanted to have an event that had our podcasters front and center. So that was a big part of it. We have a guest list with guys like Cliff Barackman and Lyle Blackburn. Loren Coleman’s going to be there. Richard Hatem’s going to be there. There’s authors and there’s experts and all that kind of stuff, but podcasting was a huge part of it for me.

But there’s also the fact that this event is not necessarily geared around speaking presentations. We’re going to have those; I think there’s four presentations that are taking place that day, and they’re going to be great. People are going to get to go hear about evidence and all that kind of stuff that people love. But the event is more geared around people having one-on-one interactions with the guests. All of our guests are going to be in the room and they’re going to have an area where people can come up and talk to them and you can interact with those people one on one.

That is something that I do think gets lost in the shuffle of a lot of these bigger events, especially the ones where people are selling autographs and things like that. It doesn’t happen because they form a line and then you’re just ushered through as quickly as you can. So that’s a big part of it.

It’s really about embracing all aspects of the cultural side of the paranormal that I think drives interest in the paranormal. We have a live podcast room, there’s going to be a screening room with movies playing throughout the day, there’s speaking presentations, and then there’s a massive vendor hall with 70+ vendors. There’s a restaurant in the DoubleTree where the event’s taking place that is going to have a cryptid-themed meu, which we’re pretty excited about. And then kids 12 and under are free, so it’s also very geared toward families. That’s also something I see get left on the side with a lot of these events. Like I said, Minerva Monster Day was a very family-friendly, family-focused event, so this is going to be similar to that in that way. We want families to come, so if you have kids 12 and under, they’re getting in free.

We’re extremely excited about having you and the Astonishing Legends guys there. Jeremiah Byron, who does a podcast called Bigfoot Society, is going to be there. That’s the other thing; there’s the guys who made it with podcasting – that’s you, that’s Scott and Forrest – and then there’s the smaller podcasters that are just starting out and starting to come up. It’s all equally important to me.

JIM HAROLD: That’s right.

SETH BREEDLOVE: So having Jeremiah there is going to be really cool, and getting some of the smaller podcasts in addition to the megastars is important to me.

JIM HAROLD: I don’t know if I qualify myself as a megastar. Maybe Scott and Forrest. But I agree with you in the sense that I just came back, as we’re recording this, about a week ago from an Ancient Mysteries cruise, which was basically mainly UFOs and those kinds of things. But the thing that was great was you were able to talk to people who had an interest. So many of us deal with people throughout the day, when you tell them you’re interested in this stuff, they look at you funny. Not everybody, but a certain amount of people.

It’s nice to be in a place where you know you can talk freely about these subjects, and as you said, interface with the experts and get their take on it and just have an open forum where you can walk up to Loren Coleman and talk to him about something, or Stan Gordon, or all of these great people that you have. Lyle Blackburn. Just a lot of great people you have here, and I’m sure there’s even more than I see on the roster here. And I’m really excited about seeing Scott and Forrest again. I saw them a few years ago at an event, and it’ll be good to catch up with them, and Richard, too, who’s a part of that project as well, Astonishing Legends.

SETH BREEDLOVE: He’s a fun guy.

JIM HAROLD: And he also wrote the script for Mothman Prophecies, the Richard Gere movie. Many people don’t know that. So that’s pretty cool, too. And he’s a continuing working writer in Hollywood. We’ll talk about this again, but before we go to the break, tell people how they can get tickets to Monster Fest 2023, where it’s going to be, the outline of the weekend there and how it’s going to go, and how they can connect and get those tickets.

SETH BREEDLOVE: If you go to smalltownmonsters.com right now, I think there’s a pop-up that’ll come right up with all the info on it. But I think it’s smalltownmonsters.com slash…

JIM HAROLD: Stmmonsterfest.

SETH BREEDLOVE: [laughs] Something like that, yeah.

JIM HAROLD: I’m looking at it. Smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. Again, that’s smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest.

SETH BREEDLOVE: And those tickets are selling fast. At some point we’re going to cap VIP passes. We haven’t figured out the exact number yet, but we’re getting close to the point where we’re going to have to make a decision on that. So those are selling out fairly soon, I think. Also, if someone’s traveling from out of the state and they’re planning on staying at the event hotel, there’s only a couple rooms left. We’re getting down to the wire with our room block as well. And when I say a couple, I mean literally. As far as I understand, there’s only two or three rooms available in the whole hotel.

JIM HAROLD: That’s really cool. That is awesome. When we get back, I want to talk about some upcoming projects you have in the way of movies. I can hardly keep up, you guys generate so much content. And it’s all great. That’s the thing. They do quality and quantity over at Small Town Monsters, and we’ll talk more about that right after this.

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JIM HAROLD: We’re back on the Paranormal Podcast. Our guest is Seth Breedlove, moviemaker extraordinary. He’s kind of like the Cecil B. DeMille of cryptid movies, right here in Ohio, which I think is pretty cool.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Roger Corman works too.

JIM HAROLD: [laughs] There, I like that better. Roger Corman, there you go. Either way, good, good company. Just to remind you, Monster Fest 2023 is coming up, June 3rd, 2023. I’ll be there recording a live Campfire, along with the guys from Astonishing Legends, Shannon LeGro, Stan Gordon, Loren Coleman, Lyle Blackburn, and the list of VIPs goes on and on and on. To get those tickets, go to smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. That’s smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest.

But Seth doesn’t say, “Okay, I put out a movie, I did a conference, my year’s over.” Oh no, he’s just starting. There are more movies coming up. Can you tell us about the movies yet to be released on the docket for this year?

SETH BREEDLOVE: There’s two facets to the video end of STM these days. We do original content on YouTube as well, which is going to be expanding to other platforms sometime hopefully by this summer. But on the film side of things, the next movie coming out is called The Dogman Triangle, which is not an adaptation, but it’s definitely a tie-in to one of our books we’re publishing this year called The Texas Dogman Triangle. That book’s written by Aaron Deese, who plays a role in the film, and then the film also features Shannon LeGro.

It’s basically about this purported Dogman Triangle that exists in the state of Texas, where there’s a bizarre preponderance of reports that is stretched out – the three points of it when it comes to the major cities are Dallas, Houston, and Austin. That’s not the exact triangle at all, but those are the three cities that everyone knows. If you want to look at it on a map, that’s how it’s laid out. There are just a massive number of reports within that geographic area, and they stretch back to the 1800s. So this has been going on for a very long time.

The movie focuses on Shannon and Aaron exploring all of the sightings that have taken place within that triangle and then trying to come to some sort of conclusion as to what could be causing it or what these creatures might be. Our movies that have been focused on Dogman have actually been far more into the supernatural/paranormal side of things; this one goes at it I think more from the flesh-and-blood perspective simply because Aaron’s opinion is that these things are some sort of flesh-and-blood creature that exists in certain areas of the country.

It’s got some really unnerving, bizarre witness stories. There’s also some stories that sort of make you scratch your head. There’s a witness who saw something that looked more like a hyena, which is very bizarre in Sam Houston National Forest. [laughs] That’s a little out of its habitat there. There’s a story that is told toward the end of the movie that revolves around five missing people near a reservation that might hint at a government coverup.

So the movie really goes in some interesting directions. And again, if people like the movie, we’re publishing the book The Texas Dogman Triangle that really expands on all of this stuff. But we wanted to make – I’d never done an adaptation, and I still don’t consider this an adaptation. I tried to come at it as “How can we do something original with the same concept as the book?” Our approach was more of documenting Shannon talking to Aaron and learning about the Dogman Triangle from his perspective and what went into actually creating the book, which I think was a fun direction to take.

Shannon’s really good on getting not just witnesses, but pretty much anyone to open up about things. You learn a lot about what it takes to put a project like this together from the film as well. It’s a unique attempt at an adaptation from us.

But that book stuff, we’re really excited about the book end of things, too. This’ll be our third published book in the last year. The first one was called Curious Creatures: The Vegetable Man. I’ve got people feeding me this. And then we had The Kinderhook Creature and Beyond by Bruce Hallenbeck come out this past fall, and this will be our third book under the STM Publishing banner.

JIM HAROLD: I think that’s great. I think being able to publish books – we’ve done a little bit of it with the Campfire books – again, the tools are there to do it. You can do it. And you can put out quality that’s just as good or better than the big names. The difference – Seth, I think the difference with you and other independent content creators, Scott and Forrest, Shannon, myself – I think, yeah, we want to do a good technical job. These are businesses. I think we all want to make a living; I think that’s reasonable. But we also all care about the content and care about the subject. That to me is the difference. We actually give a damn.

And a lot of these people – and I’m not talking about the people on the paranormal TV shows per se, or on paranormal radio per se, but when they’re controlled by huge corporations, you can bet your bottom dollar that probably the people at the top of the chain don’t give a damn about Bigfoot or UFOs or ghosts of any of it. It’s just another line item on a budget.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, and it’s all sort of geared around demographics and “who are we selling to?” and that kind of thing, and “what are we trying to sell?” We do that as well, by the way. I’m not trying to place us above that.

JIM HAROLD: Right.

SETH BREEDLOVE: But there’s a drive to create content that is coming from a very inauthentic place. I forget who it is, but recently I heard someone talking about authenticity, and it’s almost something you can’t quantify; it’s there, and the authentic stuff is the thing that people tend to respond to the most.

JIM HAROLD: People can tell.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah. There’s a huge difference between what we do – when I say “we,” I mean you and I and everyone else independently creating within this world – versus what’s on mainstream TV. It’s there, and that’s what our audience is responding to.

JIM HAROLD: I agree. I’ve got to ask you this question: why do you think it’s so hard, when you come to these cryptids, when you’re talking about Bigfoot, you’re talking about Dogman, the Beast of Bray Road, whatever it might be – and I want to mention somebody, now that I mentioned that, after I’m done with this thought – but in terms of finding hard evidence, why is it so hard to find hair or a carcass or DNA? Is it just they’re such small populations and they’re, probably very wisely, wary of humans? Why do you think it’s so hard to get physical evidence you could take to the debunkers and say, “Look, run your DNA tests on this, and this will prove one and for all this is real”? Why is that so hard to find?

SETH BREEDLOVE: I think it depends on what topic we’re discussing. If you’re talking about Bigfoot, I would assume it’s because they’re shy and they’re keeping to the most remote wilderness they can. Maybe they bury their dead and things like that.

If we’re talking about something like Dogman, my personal opinion on Dogman for a very long time has been that we are not dealing with a flesh-and-blood creature. I think it’s some sort of – I don’t know. It’s either supernatural, paranormal, or it’s some sort of mental state that creates these things. I really don’t have a definitive answer on that one, but I know that it’s very – I separate those two topics into two completely different camps.

And then when you get into things like lake monsters, or even oceanic monsters, I love that stuff, but either they’re so smart that they know to evade us, even in death, or it’s something else. It’s not a flesh-and-blood creature. You’re kind of only left with a couple options when you start discussing why we don’t have more evidence for the existence of this stuff.

But definitely when it comes to Dogman, there’s some sort of connection there to the supernatural just because of the commonalities in the reports – where this stuff happens, the people that are seeing it. There’s a lot of occult connections with the Dogman topic that don’t get discussed very often. That’s my personal opinion. Like I said, Aaron, who wrote the book, his belief is that this is some sort of undiscovered species of upright-walking canid.

JIM HAROLD: Whoa.

SETH BREEDLOVE: I don’t see that, I don’t get it, but that’s his opinion.

JIM HAROLD: That’s another thing I like. I’ve always tried to follow this; I’ll have people on the show, and I don’t necessarily agree with their theories, but I want the information to get out there so the listeners can decide and say, is this a good theory? Is this all wet? I applaud you that you’re willing to work with people who maybe don’t agree with you about everything, but the important thing is to have the discussion so we can hash through all this.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, I try not to get – I think everyone that works here at STM is like this. I don’t know any of us are married to any one opinion. We don’t separate ourselves into camps. There are, especially in the Bigfoot world, there’s becoming almost a violent opposition to opinions that don’t mesh with yours. People separate themselves into these camps where then, if you’re not on board with whatever their opinion is, then you’re probably somehow involved in a government conspiracy. I don’t know if you’ve heard this. This is a real thing that exists.

JIM HAROLD: That kind of thing is very popular in the UFO community, for example.

SETH BREEDLOVE: It’s blending over into the Bigfoot world now, because if you are of the opinion that Bigfoot is some sort of upright ape, which is my opinion, then their belief is that you’re involved in a government conspiracy to hide the truth about the Sasquatch people. And that’s the unfortunate thing about it. I have friends who think Bigfoot, if it exists, is some sort of human, or Neanderthal or something. And that’s fine. Have your opinion.

The best thing we can do as a community is to embrace every viewpoint and engage in healthy dialogue about the possibilities of this stuff. Otherwise, I don’t know what we’re doing. [laughs] Like, why would you become involved in a topic where you then have yet another reason to be angry at your fellow man all the time? I don’t get the thought process.

JIM HAROLD: That’s the thing. I think it’s kind of a spillover – and I don’t want to get into politics and all that fun stuff, but people used to be able to agree to disagree, and I think, whether it’s politics or sports or cryptids or UFOs or ghosts, now it’s like, “There is no middle ground. You have to be on this side or that side or else you’re a bad person!” That’s just my feeling, and I hate to see that.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, it’s crazy.

JIM HAROLD: I like to have an open exchange of ideas. Some places we’re going to agree, some places we’re going to disagree. But that’s not really in style these days, unfortunately.

Now, your journey – and we’ve talked about this numerous times. My journey was I was always kind of a believer in all these different things. I bought into all these different anomalous phenomena, but I was very much like, “Okay, UFOs are aliens. Bigfoot, if it exists, it’s an animal. Ghosts are dead people.” Over the course of 18 years of doing these shows, almost, come this summer, I’ve changed in the sense that I do believe there’s something going on, but I’m less likely to be as convinced of my beliefs of what these things are. At the end of the day, somebody said, “What have you learned in the last 18 years?”, and I’d say that reality is a far stranger place than we give it credit for. That’s it. Now, what it is – kind of like what you said, I don’t know. But this stuff does go on across these different categories, and there’s some weird stuff going on. What we see every day just shows us a small part of what’s really going on under the surface. That’s my belief.

How has that gone for you? How has this changed you, and where would you say you are today about all this stuff?

SETH BREEDLOVE: I guess I’m in the same camp. I know when I came into it, I was much less open to the paranormal side of it. I really did view everything as either it’s a real flesh-and-blood creature or it’s fake. I think I’m more open to the paranormal side of it these days. But I’m like you; I don’t know what that means. I don’t know what we’re exactly talking about when it comes to that stuff.

The dimensional stuff that people love to throw around right now – my problem with it – our understanding of dimensions is a little skewed, scientifically. I’m not an intelligent guy. I’m not smart enough to understand dimensions.

JIM HAROLD: I don’t buy that. [laughs] Maybe you’re not a physicist, but you’re a smart guy.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, I don’t know. But I feel like people in the paranormal space, in the cryptid space, whatever, we do grasp at straws a lot when it comes to trying to understand this stuff. There will be a theory that’s presented, and then everyone runs in that direction for a while, and then another theory will come out and people will run in that direction for a while. Right now it seems to be this interdimensional thing, but I don’t think we quite understand dimensions enough to understand how that would interact with our reality, how that would present itself in our space. I don’t think there’s necessarily a scientific understanding of it or presentation of it within the paranormal world that is educated enough. I don’t know if I’m putting that in a way that makes sense, but that’s my opinion on it.

I’m interested in those ideas, but I would need to hear someone who’s far more educated on it than I have so far. Basically, what I want to know is, if there’s another dimension where a Bigfoot exists, can that Bigfoot literally just walk into our dimension as a flesh-and-blood being and all of a sudden it’s existing in our plane of reality? I know that that’s realistic.

Also, you have to understand, despite what you said, I really am not intelligent. So I would need that person that’s explaining that to me to dumb it down to the absolute bottom of the barrel, you’re talking to a guy who went to college for one day sort of level.

JIM HAROLD: Well, I won’t argue with you. We’ll agree to disagree about the intelligent thing. But I know what you’re saying, and I think sometimes we do say – for example, the UFO thing, or we’ll talk about ghosts, and somebody will just say, “Quantum physics.” It’s like, okay, what about quantum physics? I know exactly what you’re saying. I feel I’m intelligent in some ways, and I think that’s more where you were headed – you’re definitely intelligent in many ways, but neither one of us are physicists. [laughs] No one’s going to be giving us the Nobel Prize for our work in science.

The point being, it would be great to have some of those explanations, and I would hope that maybe over time, some scientists will work towards that and say, “Hey, instead of fighting these people, let’s see if we can talk about these questions and see where there might be some common ground.” I hope that happens.

Well, speaking of common ground, Monster Fest 2023 – where can people get those tickets, one more time? I can even read it if you don’t have the URL in front of you. It’s smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. That’s smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Yeah, and tickets are selling out, so if you’re interested in attending – we will have tickets at the door, but the VIP tickets are going to be capped at some point. The plan is to eventually cap those. The best thing about those VIP tickets is – we are reserving some seating in the speaker area for VIPs. It’s not going to be all the VIP area, the entire place will be a VIP area, but some of the area is going to be reserved for VIPs. Same with the podcast room, same with the screening room. And then also, the VIP passes come with a t-shirt and a pass to Friday night’s film premiere at the Canton Palace Theater of Land of the Missing. It’s sort of the all-in-one way to get everything you want from the event.

And they’re not crazy expensive, especially for a VIP pass to one of these events. So that’s the direction I’m steering people.

JIM HAROLD: And again, some of the names – and I’m just mentioning a few, not all of them – Loren Coleman, Stan Gordon, Lyle Blackburn, Richard Hatem, Forrest Burgess from Astonishing Legends, Scott Philbrook, Shannon LeGro, and Seth Breedlove’s going to be there, too. And a whole bunch of really great people, and I’ll be there too, doing a live Campfire. So I hope that you can join us. Smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest.

And I would be negligent and not doing my job if I didn’t say, Seth, where can people find your movies?

SETH BREEDLOVE: Movies are available on most of the major VOD platforms, like Amazon and iTunes, and then a bunch of our stuff is available on some of the free streaming platforms and subscriber platforms like Tubi and Crackle.

And then obviously our YouTube as well. We’ve really honed in on YouTube over the last year and a half, two years, and are creating a ton of content over there. and we have huge plans for YouTube this year. By the summer, there is going to come a point where we’re going to have one new series launching each week on YouTube. We have some stuff coming out that we just recently announced on YouTube, including a whole miniseries set in Alaska that is going to be filmed in June. So yeah, YouTube is also a great way to keep up with us.

JIM HAROLD: Amazing. He’s doing amazing things in Ohio, the Roger Corman of cryptid films. [laughs] I’m talking about Seth Breedlove. Smalltownmonsters.com. Everybody check out everything he has going on, and check out Monster Fest as well. Seth, always a pleasure. I’m always impressed with everything you’re doing, and I look forward to seeing you in early June.

SETH BREEDLOVE: Thanks for having me, Jim.

JIM HAROLD: As we said there, I hope if you’re in the Midwest, you can join us on June 3rd for Monster Fest. You can find all the information about myself and the luminaries that will be there – I don’t think I’m a luminary, but Astonishing Legends, Loren Coleman, all the great personalities, and how you can be a part of it, at smalltownmonsters.com/stmmonsterfest. And I’ll see you there.

And if you’re in the Northeast, I hope you’ll join me on my upcoming tour. We’ll be in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Boston, and New York. Get your tickets now while you can: jimharold.com/tour. That’s jimharold.com/tour.

In whatever geography works for you, I hope to see you soon, and I hope to see you next week for the next edition of the Paranormal Podcast. Have a great week, everybody! Bye-bye.

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