Powerful Juju and Magick – Paranormal Podcast 777

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We talk with magick practitioner Najah Lightfoot about her recent book, Powerful Juju.

Najah talks about how magick can help us in our lives and dispels some misconceptions.

You can find her book here at Amazon: https://amzn.to/3UMC4kK

Thanks Najah!

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JIM HAROLD: We’ve got a great show on tap for you. Najah Lightfoot will be joining us to talk about voodoo. But first I want to talk about something that I hope will be magical: my tour coming up. Go to jimharold.com/tour and there you can get your tickets to my Jim Harold Campfire Live: Stories From Around the Campfire Tour. That will be this June. We’ll be going to Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Boston, and New York. If you’re in or around any of those vicinities, I hope that you join us.

We’ve really worked to make this something special. Not merely just a podcast recording, but an interactive experience, and I’d love to see you there. Also, you’ll find there’s some great VIP opportunities. We have a VIP Meet & Greet that you can select if you so wish, or you can just go with the standard attendance. Either way, we’d love to have you there around our Campfire, in person for a change! Now, we won’t light an actual campfire indoors. [laughs] But I think we’re going to have a lot of fun.

I hope to see you there! Get your tickets now at jimharold.com/tour. That’s jimharold.com/tour. See you there!

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This is the Paranormal Podcast with Jim Harold.

JIM HAROLD: Welcome to the Paranormal Podcast. I am Jim Harold, and so glad to be with you today. I think we could always use some good juju in our lives, powerful juju, and that’s exactly what we’re going to talk about today. Our guest is Najah Lightfoot. She is the author of Powerful Juju: Goddesses, Music & Magic for Comfort, Guidance & Protection, a recent book. She’s been on the shows previously to talk about Good Juju, her other book.

Najah is the multi-award-winning author of Good Juju. She a regular contributor to Llewellyn’s annuals and a contributor to The Library of Esoterica Volume III – Witchcraft. Her magical staff is part of the permanent collection of the Buckland Museum of Witchcraft in Cleveland, Ohio, my hometown. She’s a fellow of the Sojourner Truth Leadership Circle, and we are so glad to speak with her today. Also, you can check out her website at craftandconjure.com. Najah, welcome back to the show.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Thank you, Jim. It’s such a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me back, and thank you to all your listeners for listening to our conversation today. I’m so honored to be asked to be back on your show.

JIM HAROLD: Good to have you. When we were talking offline a little bit, I said we’re going to roll it back to 101 again, because I think any time we talk about voodoo, there are a lot of misconceptions out there, a lot of stuff with popular culture where it’s been appropriated and maybe mischaracterized in many ways. So as an initiate and someone who is deep within this world and understands it, can you talk a little bit about that? Separating a little bit of the fact from the fiction of what we think of as “voodoo”?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Sure. I want to say that it took me a long time to find my way into the religion of Vodou. It is a religion, although the word “voodoo,” V-O-O-D-O-O, has been used to describe a lot of different things. You hear “You’ve got that voodoo.” What you really hear a lot is “that mojo.” People like to talk about their mojo and getting their mojo back and all that kind of stuff, which I wrote about in my first book, Good Juju. What a mojo actually is is a real, tangible item that people use for their spirituality for blessing, protection, abundance, anything like that. So people kind of loop all that together, and then of course, there’s always been lots of movies and books around “voodoo” as an exotic practice.

But actually, the religion Vodou is something that comes out of the African Diaspora. Africans who were enslaved who left Africa and went to all different places of the world – some other practices that people have of spiritual practices blended with the religions of where they were. Vodou as a religious practice is very deep. It’s something that it took me years to get to. I barely find my way. [laughs] I tell people it’s kind of like you should have the respect for it as if you were seeking out any other type of religion and you wanted to join that church or temple, that you would take the time to really understand what it is and respect it as the powerful religious practice that it is.

JIM HAROLD: I feel silly asking this because we have such little time – I mean, this is something that you could write multiple volumes about – but in a nutshell, can you tell us about some of the central tenets of the religion?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Well, we have festivals. There’s a big one called Fet Gede that happens around the same time as Sowan, for people who practice Wicca, around Halloween, for the mainstream. That’s honoring the ancestors and keeping altars to the Lwa. The Lwa are the intermediaries between humankind and then your higher power, and there’s lots of different deities.

For most people, Vodou is blended a little bit with Catholicism. I didn’t grow up with Catholicism; I’m not an ex-practicing Catholic, so it was a little bit hard for me when coming into it to get used to using saints, but there are deities in Vodou that correspond with saints, just like there are with people who practice African traditional religions that might involve orishas. It’s keeping altars and saying prayers and doing those different types of services to your higher power at certain times of the year or whenever you feel called to gather and make offerings and make prayers for help, and supplication.

JIM HAROLD: Unfortunately, in popular media a lot of times, it’s put out there that all of this is in a negative light. Like the famous one, The Voodoo Doll.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Right. [laughs]

JIM HAROLD: And you’re casting spells against people. Very in a negative light. You never hear about any good spells. Can you separate the fiction from the reality there? Because I think this religion has gotten an unfair treatment in that regard. Can you talk about that and how many aspects of this are positive?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Oh, so much of it is positive. All of it is positive. I think people extract things that they don’t understand and try to paint them in a light that scares people. It’s a very powerful religion. One of the things that I really love about Vodou as a practice is the drums, when we get together and there’s the sound of drumbeats. If you go back and look at the history of enslaved Africans, we came with our drums, we came with the sound. I came into Vodou through time that I spent down in New Orleans. I don’t live in New Orleans; I live in Denver.

But if you look at that history, they used to gather on Congo Square on Sundays. That was free days for enslaved people of color and Africans, and you could go to Congo Square and beat your drums. And that scared people. [laughs] Because it’s powerful. In my book Powerful Juju, I do talk about Mama Marie Laveau, who is very special to me. That’s one of the very first places that I start – everybody knows about Marie Laveau, but they always want to paint her as this really scary, exotic, bizarre person. But for me, I came to her because she was a powerful practitioner woman of color. In my book, I talk about all the work that she did to help people who were in jail and help people with court cases. She was also Catholic, which a lot of people during that time were just because that was part of being the culture there. But she was a very devout person. That gets lost, that she spent a lot of time helping prisoners and people who were in need. That’s really what it’s about: helping people in need.

Now, in terms of dolls, I do love dolls. [laughs] I have a thing for dolls, but they have nothing to do with Vodou. And pens. But I am quite a lover of dolls, and you can find doll magic in all kinds of culture. There’s poppets, there’s clay dolls from antiquity, people who have been fashioning human figures out of clay and fabric since we began.

JIM HAROLD: Some of these people – I’m looking through and I would maybe expect them. Other people, you can tap into people who have passed, and you talk about this – I see a couple people here who I instantly recognize, great singers, Nina Simone and Nancy Wilson.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Yes.

JIM HAROLD: Talk a little bit about how – I think we tend to think in these instances maybe you can only tap into people who have been gone way in the past, but these are people that were around within our lifetimes. I’m interested in why you picked them and how you can tap into people who have passed relatively recently.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: They are very powerful women to me. They’re powerful women from my childhood, from Black culture, from American culture. You can’t talk about jazz without talking about Nancy Wilson. Oftentimes when I say Nancy Wilson, people think I’m talking about Nancy Wilson from Heart.

JIM HAROLD: No, no, no.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: I’m like, no, no, even though she’s great, I’m talking about Nancy Wilson who was an icon in the jazz world and for the Black community as well. And Nina Simone, she’s legendary. You hear about her – her music is still played in all kinds of commercials. So people tap into them to use them to make them feel better. You hear a Nina Simone song, you get certain images, certain feelings. You hear a Nancy Wilson tune. Just because they’ve passed over, doesn’t mean that they still aren’t helpful to you when you listen to their music.

For me, when I was thinking about goddesses, women that I wanted to highlight and maybe help people touch to in a different way, how they helped me was first through their music. I thought that was so powerful because music is transcendent. Everybody has their own special song, but you get it. I thought, it’s not like we’re deifying them; we’re just using their song and their lives and their inspiration to help us when we’re having a hard time and we need to be uplifted. So that’s how I ended up choosing them, because they both have done that for me in their music.

JIM HAROLD: It’s interesting. Nancy Wilson, I always think of her at Christmastime because my parents had this great old record, and I ended up in later years getting it on CD, and now you can get it on streaming. It has all of these different Christmas songs by all these different artists on Capitol Records at the time, and Nancy Wilson was one. So I was kind of the opposite; when somebody said Nancy Wilson, she’s the first person, the real Nancy Wilson, I thought of, and then I would think of the artist from Heart, who’s great too. I would think of her secondarily. So it’s like the opposite for me because I grew up listening to her on that album.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Yeah, their songs are so wonderful. They just send you.

JIM HAROLD: Oh yeah, just tremendous. So I want to get a feel for the first book to the second book. Was the first book a 101 and then the second book is delving in a little deeper?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Yes, absolutely, Jim. The first book was to help people who may not have any – what do I want to say? Alignment, or just are curious. More curious about how to make a mojo or doing magical practices to help their lives in spiritual ways and using magic as a positive influence in their life. It was like, you can do it. It’s not scary. It’s okay, take your time, and also just allow yourself to take your time and bring yourself into your work, too. Take what you need and leave what doesn’t work for you.

Then after I wrote that book, people were saying they would love to go deeper, and they also wanted to touch with me on a more personal level. I was thinking about the next book after that, and I thought, I am such a lover of music and ritual and the seasons. Talking about Vodou earlier, that’s just one part of my life, but really I’m a practicing witch dedicated to the goddess. I just move on. I just carry on with what I have. And I love music. I thought, this would be really great. These are the songs that I actually listen to, and I actually use when I do ritual or say my prayers to help me get over.

I wrote Powerful Juju during the pandemic, and there were a lot of hard things going on. Life is hard for people. Good Juju was light and it’s good, but I also wanted to acknowledge that people struggle. Everybody struggles. I thought this would be good to help people try to get over when they’re down, when stuff gets hard.

JIM HAROLD: These goddesses that you pray to and you do the ritual in connection with – like Marie Laveau with the court cases; I know that’s one that you cover in the book – are they inherently good at one thing or another? Or is it almost what you ask of them or what you assign to them? Or is it a little bit of both?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: I think it’s a little bit of both. Some of the women actually lived on the Earth plane. Human beings are complex people. I just picked them because Nancy Wilson, if you listen to her song and you’re heartbroken, oh my gosh, she just sends you. And Frida Kahlo, who was a phenomenal artist and painter and legendary. You know she suffered. Her life is so well documented, what she overcame. So that was powerful for me. And then a couple other ones, like Sekhmet, who was an Egyptian goddess, who is mythological. Or Lilith, who is such a powerful mythological figure. They do have their track of calling on for powerful help and things like that.

So it’s more of just I picked certain areas that I was familiar with because I always like to tell people I just write from my own authentic experiences. I don’t speak for any one person or any one religion or way. It’s just what has been helpful to me, and I chose the pieces of them that I thought helped me and I thought they would help other people.

JIM HAROLD: We’re having a very fascinating conversation today. We’re talking about Powerful Juju with Najah Lightfoot – Goddesses, Music & Magic for Comfort, Guidance & Protection – and we’ll be back right after this.

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JIM HAROLD: We’re back on the Paranormal Podcast. Our guest is Najah Lightfoot. The book is Powerful Juju: Goddesses, Music & Magic for Comfort, Guidance & Protection. We’re so glad to have her on the show to talk about the book and about Vodou and magic. Najah, I know we talked about some of the human goddesses you called upon. What are some of the more – I don’t want to say spiritual, but non-human goddesses that you called upon, or some of the other spirits in the book that you’ve called upon?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: One of my favorites that I wrote about was the goddess Abundantia for prosperity. I just really love her. She comes from Roman times. She was such a popular goddess that her face was actually printed on coins. To have a woman’s face be on Roman coins and people honoring her as a goddess of prosperity all the way back then is great. She comes with this image of a cornucopia that’s overflowing, so you can really look up her mythology and work with her that way. She’s been a goddess that’s been close to me for a long time because we all need money. [laughs] We have to live.

JIM HAROLD: It’s true. [laughs]

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: It’s true, no matter what. [laughs] All cultures have had their currency of exchange. But people have to live, and I like to keep it real. Everybody wants to get paid. So I thought she was a wonderful goddess. And then there’s Sulis Minerva, who I just love. I actually was in London and we went to Bath and went down to the Roman baths and found there was the Temple of Sulis Minerva.

She is also a Roman goddess that was during Roman times. There was Sulis and there was Minerva, and she was a warrior queen, but also she has this wonderful – she was down there with the water, so we got to go down underneath the Roman baths, and there was this big bust of her down underneath the ground. People used to pay homage to Sulis Minerva for healing. I thought she was so powerful, she was so wonderful, and I was so overwhelmed when we were down there in Bath, England, several years ago and came upon her face in a case. She’s super powerful.

And then there’s Lilith, who a lot of people may be familiar with as the claw-footed goddess who refused to lay beneath the biblical Adam and was found flying up in the sky, creating her own children. She just wouldn’t be subdued. I always think she’s so powerful, and the song I chose for her was “Missionary Man” by the Eurhythmics because I thought it paired so good. If you want to get really inspired and motivated, you can call upon Lilith to help you summon up your power and your courage when you’re having a hard time and you need to move on and be strong and carry on. So those are a few of my favorites.

JIM HAROLD: I want to step back a little bit and go to a little more general area. The question of spells. Again, kind of like we talked before, there’s a lot of misconceptions, misunderstandings of what spells are. How can you explain spells to people in a way that really reflects reality as opposed to some of the misinformation that’s out there, and how they work?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: I think an easy way for people who maybe aren’t familiar with the word “spells” – I think everybody is familiar with the word “affirmation” or “intention,” or even for me, I say prayer. I use the word prayer. In that context, you’re actually putting forth an intention, something that you would like to change in a positive light or help yourself or help your family or your loved one or your friend. Then you actually might bring something tangible into that work. For me, the basic thing is lighting a candle, lighting some incense, saying some words that are meaningful to you, always running that through your higher power.

For me that’s very important. Whatever your higher power is – I’m not here to define people’s higher power; that’s totally between you and your divinity – and entering into a positive, calm space and having a conversation with them. And then maybe lighting a candle or burning some incense or holding some herbs or doing it at a certain time. Like the full moon is very powerful. The new moon is for a beginning. When the moon is waxing, that’s a time of increase, so if you were trying to increase things in your life, you’d do it between the new moon and the full moon. And then if you were trying to let go of things, you would do the same type of work – I like to call them works – between the waning of the moon, between the full moon and the new moon.

So you just tie it more to what’s going on astrologically and astronomically, and it’s something that, as you grow and you work your magical practices, you find more things that work for you that way. You can start very small. It doesn’t have to be like you have all these wands and tools – although I do have wands. [laughs] I love wands. Like we were talking about, everybody wishes they could’ve wiggled their nose. I loved Bewitched as a kid. Who wouldn’t want to? But it’s more about making your intentions be known.

JIM HAROLD: Actually, you kind of read my mind there, because I was going to mention exactly that, Bewitched. I grew up with the reruns. I love that show. That was one of my favorite shows. Actually, a few years ago I got the DVD set, so I have every episode. And I loved Elizabeth Montgomery, but that’s neither here nor there. I thought she was great.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Me too.

JIM HAROLD: But I guess, as silly as it sounds, people still have that misconception that a witch or someone practicing magic can wiggle their nose and it just appears. That’s the concept. It’s a lot more subtle than that, isn’t it? Explain how that works, because I think there’s a certain amount of people out there who are like, “There’s nothing to magic because you can’t wiggle your nose and just make it happen.” I mean, that’s a funny sitcom.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Right, and if that was true, there wouldn’t be any suffering in the world.

JIM HAROLD: That’s right. So if you can talk about how it actually does work and how it does manifest more subtly?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Sure. First of all, when you enter into that space, you’re going into a sacred space in your mind and in your heart, and you become very calm and very still, and you set your intentions for what you want to see happen.

I’ve lit candles for people who are maybe having surgery. Maybe they’re having a really hard time and they’re nervous or they’re scared, so I will, with their permission, or if someone asks me – unless it’s my own family – I might get a white candle. I would cleanse it with some Florida Water, which you can find in my book. That just wipes off anybody who’s ever touched the candle before you. I might write their name on that candle and draw some hearts or flowers on the front of it, and I might say a prayer for them as I light that candle for them and ask that whatever they need to be well and heal and be comforted, that that manifests for them in accordance with their highest good. As a person who’s connected to the goddess and the divine feminine, I would ask the goddess to help me to bless this work for them.

Even just talking about it now, I feel calm. I feel a feeling come over me. And when you do magic and you’re very serious about it, and you’re committed towards what you’re doing, it’s more of a feeling that you’ll get. You’ll actually feel calmness come over you. That doesn’t mean that this person is going to get up and walk or they’re going to be healed. It’s more like active prayer, active affirmation that you are seriously putting your desires into this work, you’re looking at this candle – you may be outside, you could be in a park, you could be in your room, but you’re actually having a conversation with spirit. And that’s the subtlety. You are joining yourself with spirit and asking for help.

And then you have to let go of it, because we can’t control the outcome. But it does feel good to do something. Sometimes you just feel like life gets down and gets hard, and there’s nothing you can do. That’s really what magic is all about, saying, “Hey, I could do this act here. It’ll make me feel better, and we’ll see how things go.” Like when I do prosperity work, that doesn’t mean I’m going to get a check for a million dollars in the mail. [laughs] But a bill might be not as much. Or something that I wanted that was a lot of money, maybe all of a sudden it’s more affordable for me. Or someone in my family gets a job. So you have to be openminded with your practices. It’s very much a relationship.

JIM HAROLD: For people listening who say, “Hey, this has interest to me, but I’m worried about the religion I practice and I’m afraid it’s an either/or kind of situation,” I know you mentioned Marie Laveau was Catholic and many people connected with this religion had Catholic upbringings and things, but is it an either/or situation? That if you go down this path and investigate these things, you have to turn your back on everything else? Or can it be a part of your spiritual practice, not necessarily excluding your other spiritual practices?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Personally, it should be – I don’t want to say should, but personally, for me, everything that I’ve learned to do is just part of who I am. I would never tell anyone it has to be either/or. It’s part of life. You grow and you evolve. You might start out doing something, just like people start out with some more organized religious practices, and then all of a sudden you’re 35 and you don’t want to do that anymore. But maybe there’s a piece of that you really liked, so you keep that. Some people may be in certain groups and that was working for them for a while, and they don’t want to do that anymore, so they carry on.

I think we need permission to say, “that was good for me, but that doesn’t work for me now. I’d like to go ahead” – and it’s also good to keep learning. That’s the other fun thing about spirituality. When you put it under the big umbrella of spirituality, then you just keep learning. The world and the universe is vast. So I encourage people to keep seeking and keep growing and keep learning, because that’s what makes life exciting. To shut yourself off and say “I can only be this one way” or “I can only do it this one way” – that gets monotonous and boring after a while. [laughs]

I think people find levels comfortable with, and maybe that becomes part of their foundation, but you can always add to it.

JIM HAROLD: In terms of this book, Powerful Juju, what would you say is maybe one of your favorite points in the book, one of the favorite things you tried to get across? It could be an interaction with a goddess or a specific thought you wanted to get across to the audience. What is one of your favorites?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: One of my favorites is that Powerful Juju is to help people rise up and to listen to the music, that they can actually take the music – the book can be used threefold. You could just listen to all the songs and get feelings out of that, and then you can read it and decide to listen to the music, and then you could take it and practice the rites and rituals, if you feel so called for.

What I really like is that it’s available for people at all levels to figure out how they really like to practice or get comfortable on their own time and help them find ways to rise up, to get up when life gets hard, like we were talking about. A couple things that I wrote through the book – I hurt my own knee, we were in the pandemic. There were a lot of things going on in the world that were hard for people. We need to be able to feel like there’s help for us, that we can find hope. So this is my way of trying to give people hope and something they can do to help them if they’re so inclined toward magical spirituality that they could do.

JIM HAROLD: Where can people find the book and more information on everything you do?

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Well, the book is available everywhere. It’s in brick-and-mortar stores, it’s on Llewelyn.com, Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble. I’m really blessed. It’s out everywhere. I’m pretty much living on Instagram these days. I see you on Instagram now. So Instagram is my happy place. Pretty much you can find me on Instagram. I do have a website, craftandconjure.com. It’s a placeholder right now. It’s been going through some tech things. You know how tech is always changing.

JIM HAROLD: Oh yeah.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Yeah. [laughs] But mostly you can find me on Instagram. I’m pretty much living there these days. I’m also going to be in Baltimore over April 5th through the 9th at the Between the Worlds Sacred Spaces Conference. I’m very excited to be teaching in person. I’m going to be teaching a couple things from the book and then another new thing I’ve been working on. So that’s what’s coming up for me.

JIM HAROLD: Always good to speak with Najah Lightfoot. The book is Powerful Juju: Goddesses, Music & Magic for Comfort, Guidance & Protection. Najah, thank you so much for joining us today to talk about this. I really appreciate your time. It’s always very insightful and very fun.

NAJAH LIGHTFOOT: Thank you, Jim. It’s always a pleasure. Thank you for inviting me back. Wish you all the best.

JIM HAROLD: Always great to catch up with Najah. She’s always so interesting and has so much fascinating information. Before we go, there’s something I wanted to remind you about. Go to jimharold.com/tour and there you can get your tickets to my Jim Harold Campfire Live: Stories From Around the Campfire Tour. That will be this June. We’ll be going to Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Boston, and New York. If you’re in or around any of those vicinities, I hope that you join us.

We’ve really worked to make this something special. Not merely just a podcast recording, but an interactive experience, and I’d love to see you there. Also, you’ll find there’s some great VIP opportunities. We have a VIP Meet & Greet that you can select if you so wish, or you can just go with the standard attendance. Either way, we’d love to have you there around our Campfire, in person for a change! Now, we won’t light an actual campfire indoors. [laughs] But I think we’re going to have a lot of fun.

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And I hope to see you next week for the next edition of the Paranormal Podcast. Thanks for listening, and we’ll talk to you next time. Have a great week, everybody! Bye-bye.

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