She’s A Modern Day Exorcist – The Paranormal Podcast 816

She’s a modern day exorcist. Rachel Stavis joins us on this edition of The Paranormal Podcast!

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Jim Harold:

A modern day exorcist Rachel Stavis. Up next on the Paranormal Podcast.

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This is the Paranormal Podcast with Jim Harold.

Jim Harold:

Welcome to the Paranormal Podcast. I am Jim Harold, and so glad to be with you today, and we have a great guest with us today. You will see her on the screen, Rachel Stavis. She’s a world renowned exorcist with a non-denominational approach dedicated to banishing darkness. Now she does it one individual and one location at a time. Now her bestselling memoir, we’re going to bring it up on the screen here, Sister of Darkness: the Chronicles of a Modern Exorcist has been featured by the New York Times, Cosmopolitan, Bustle, the Daily Mail, Refinery 29 and many others. In 2021, she hosted the Tubi program, Celebrity Exorcism, joined by stars such as Shar Jackson, Metta World Peace, and Jodi Sweetin. Based in Los Angeles, Rachel’s journey spans across clients of all ages and varying degrees of complexity. Her work has served over 10,000 individuals throughout the US and internationally. We’ve spoken to her before, so glad to have her on the show again. Rachel Stavis, welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us again.

Rachel Stavis:

Well, thank you so much for having me. And yeah, wow, 10,000, that’s a big number. Sometimes you – 

Jim Harold:

Yeah, that’s a lot of people. That’s a lot of people for sure. Now, as I understand it, Rachel, you kind of had an inkling, you had these gifts early on, but maybe you pushed it back a little bit. Is that right? Can you talk us through that?

Rachel Stavis:

Sure, yeah. So when I was a kid, I complained about monsters under the bed and monsters in the closet, probably every kid does, and parents would come in and they would say there’s nothing there. But for me, it never went away. So I tried to suppress it because I found out later that not everybody had that sight. They couldn’t see entities in the way that I did, and that was kind of crazy. So I didn’t talk about it ever again and grew up and tried to be normal, and then had a very stressful week when I turned 30 and had a fender bender and it was just like one stressor, too many. And at that point, my sight just blew open. And I always say the person who was standing on the corner who was screaming at nothing, I could see what they were screaming at and it was everywhere. And at that point, instead of trying to shut it all down again, I just tried to lean in even further and open it up. And that led me here.

Jim Harold:

Now as someone who is about as psychic as a board, meaning talking to someone like you who has these gifts, I’m always interested when I talk to people with spiritual gifts, what they see, what they experience, a clairaudient, clairsentient. Where do you come into that? What do you experience? What do you see?

Rachel Stavis:

Well, I can see entities with my eyes, so it’s pretty plain for me, visually, it depends on what we’re talking about though. So with entities, usually depending on the entity, I’ll get certain sounds like electricity popping that will come in. And if it’s deceased people, I’ll get a lot of emotions pushed through me. So I kind of get the whole spectrum, I guess.

Jim Harold:

Now, is this something you can turn off? I often wonder if you’ve got those gifts and you go to the grocery store and hey, you just want to pick up a loaf of bread, you’re not really interested in spiritual enlightenment at that particular time. Is that something you can turn on and off, or it’s just constant for you?

Rachel Stavis:

It depends. It depends on how strong something’s coming through. So for me, I do try to turn it off in crowds, especially at concerts or movies or restaurants. But even in movie theaters, I’m watching the movie and I can see the entity that’s attached to the actor. So it sort of takes you out of the story sometimes, unless it’s a horror movie, which then it’s fine. It’s just kind of part of the background.

Jim Harold:

So I was going to ask you about this at some point, but not only can you see these things as they’re happening, if you’re in the presence of someone, I was going to ask you if you could see it electronically, if you’re on a Zoom call or Skype or whatever.

Rachel Stavis:

Oh yeah, everywhere

Jim Harold:

If you can see it. But you can see it retroactively in the sense that if you watch a recording of someone you can tell, that’s amazing. Talk to us about that if you would.

Rachel Stavis:

Yeah, I mean, I don’t know what the reasoning is other than I see entities with my eyes, right? So if there’s an entity attached to someone at the time, I can see the entity. So for me, it’s even in photos, people try to send me photographs all the time. I say that I can see it in photos, so I’ll just get random photos sent to me like, Hey, do I have an entity? And it’s like, listen, I can’t tell everybody. But yeah, so it’s just kind of a weird thing I have. I don’t know. I don’t know why.

Jim Harold:

Well, do you think it’s a gift? I mean, is it a gift or is it a curse or is it a little bit of both?

Rachel Stavis:

Definitely when I was younger and I was told that this is delusional, this is how people react, they just do. I thought I was weird. So it felt much more like a curse to me because not only was I weird, but I was seeing all these scary things. And at the time, there wasn’t anything that I knew to do about it. So it just seemed like a strange, terrible thing to have. But now that I’m able to help people with it, I feel like it’s much more of a gift for sure.

Jim Harold:

So attachments, I was looking at some of your materials before the interview and you said that a very high percentage, I was astounded. A very high percentage of people have attachments attached to them. Could you tell us about that? Because when I heard that figure, I was blown away.

Rachel Stavis:

So it’s really not that uncommon. It’s definitely not as uncommon as people think, but it’s not all movie style entities either. That’s a specific type of entity. Most people are walking around with what I call Clives, and it’s not scientific. I call them that they look like Clive Barker drawings to me. These are how I name things. But yeah, so that is kind of what is considered to me, the leech of the entities, if you will, the smallest and the easiest to pick up. And they just kind of augment any kind of negative feelings. If you’re sad, you’re depressed. If you have anger, you have rage. It just kind of does that. It’s like a little amplifier. And a lot of people are walking around with that. Tons of people, as I say this, I’m sure you can think of people who you’re like, oh wait, I think that person has one. And they’re also easy for people to get rid of because the minute you start working on yourself, they kind of have less to feed on. So people pick ’em up and get rid of them on their own quite a lot and never know they had it.

Jim Harold:

So you talked a little bit about the types of entities. I think that most people assume, okay, you have an attachment that means that you have a demon on your back and it’s nefarious and so forth. Can you talk to us about the different kinds of entities that can be attached and maybe a little bit about what is the most, well, you talked about a little bit there, but the most common and the different types.

Rachel Stavis:

So the Clives are most common, and they’re, like I said, the smallest, if you will, the least malignant I guess. And it starts to go up from there. So we have wraiths who unfortunately attach through any kind of sexual trauma, and those are the ones that cause night terrors and sleep paralysis. You have tricksters, which are a little more advanced, which make people believe that they have a symbiotic relationship. So those are the ones who are like imaginary friends, archangels, deceased loved ones that feel off, that kind of stuff. And they will show themselves to people, but as the thing that they think they are. And it goes all the way up to realm walkers, which I think is what people consider the devil. But there’s more than one realm walker on the planet, unfortunately. And those are the ones that can do absolutely everything that everything below them can do plus hold whole spaces, hold people, attract people to the spaces, everything.

Jim Harold:

So a lot of times I’ve talked to my new age friends and they say, well, there’s no such thing as evil. There’s a lower level of vibration. And I have always been one that said, I think about people like Dahmer and Hitler and people like that, and to me it’s obvious that evil is real. Does that mean every time you hear a leaky faucet that there’s a demon downstairs? No, but I personally believe evil is different, but is different, is real. But as an expert such as yourself, I’m just a guy who asks questions. What do you think is evil real?

Rachel Stavis:

Yeah, I mean definitely I see it in my practice all the time. Certainly not everything is bad that I work on. I help people conceive. I help people with addiction. I help people with a lot of things that are not as extreme as that. But I do also see the other side of that too. And there are some people who are worse than their entities. Let’s just put it that way.

Jim Harold:

Now, in terms of the trickster, in fact, I literally had it written down on my little card here, trickster, because I was going to ask you about that. And I’m so glad you brought that up because to me, it seems like, and I think in watching and listening to some of your material, that you believe that our beloved loved ones can’t come back to us. But I also would think that if there’s not such a good entity out there, a trickster entity, that boy, a convenient way to get entre to a person is to say, Hey, I’m Aunt Edna and I’m so glad to see you and let me build this relationship with you. How common is that and how can we protect ourselves against that and still be open to communicating with good spirits from the other side?

Rachel Stavis:

Sure. Yeah. I mean, it is fairly common, unfortunately, but people need to start trusting their feelings because there’s no way to hide the malignant feeling of an entity. So it definitely doesn’t feel like aunt Edna. So don’t go by just what you see, go by what you feel because that energy doesn’t lie. And demons or entities in particular, are what people think are demons, right? So they’re not deceased. They cannot be deceased, loved ones. I know they can take on the form, but they cannot be. So in other words, deceased people and entities are totally different things.

Jim Harold:

Oh, that’s reassuring. That is reassuring. Now, I’ve got to ask you this because you’re kind of billed as a world famous exorcist. Certainly 10,000 people would put you into that category, but some people, when they hear the word exorcist, they think, oh, that is somebody that’s got the stamp of approval from the Catholic church who is either ordained or they are given certification of sorts by the Catholic church. How do you qualify yourself as an exorcist? I know somebody buddy will be wondering that. How does that work, if you can explain that?

Rachel Stavis:

Well, firstly, let me say that I have worked with the church before, and I have worked with priests before, so I do have at least a certain amount of respect there. But going back even further, we have this very strange idea about Catholicism and exorcism. And I think that’s because that’s all you ever see on screen. But that’s not the whole, right? But it’s not the whole thing. I mean, there are many cultures that have been performing exorcisms that are not Catholic or Christian even, for so long. So it isn’t just one thing, I guess is what I’m saying. There are many, many, many, many different places and cultures that do that. For me, I kind of go by what spirit tells me. So I have a connection to high beings, I have a connection to spirit, to source, whatever you want to call it, and that’s where I get my information from. So as soon as I opened myself up even further from just seeing all this negative in the world and just seeing all the dark things, I was able to let in a lot of the light things. And that’s where I am ordained, if you will.

Jim Harold:

Fair enough, fair enough. Now let me ask you this. Something I know that does come up, and first of all, I believe in the supernatural. I believe in possession. I believe people can be possessed by spirits. I’m on board. I also think though, when we’re in this space, we have to be cognizant of mental health issues. 

Rachel Stavis:

Absolutely. 

Jim Harold: 

There are some people who have mental health issues who think they’re possessed and they’re simply schizophrenic, or I’m not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, but you get the idea. So I gather that’s very important to you as well. So how do you suss that out? How does that work?

Rachel Stavis:

Well, for me it’s actually quite easy because I can see entity with my eyes. So they either have it or they don’t. But I should say too, that mental illness and attachment unfortunately are not mutually exclusive either. You can have both as well. I mean, how entity even attaches in the first place is its energy. So we are talking about lower vibrational things, which we’ve already touched upon today. So there’s high beings and low beings and everything in between. And when we are walking around with what I call our baseline frequency, how we interact with others, how speak to ourselves, how conscious we are of everything, all of those things, if we’re on a scale of one to 10 and one is dead and 10 is Buddha, most people are at like a four. And so the more we work on ourselves, the higher that goes. But that takes time. When we have trauma, that energy takes a hit, and now we are in lower frequency, and that’s how these energies attach in the first place. So if someone’s going through any kind of trauma or crisis, unfortunately that makes us more susceptible without the proper tools of how to protect ourselves from those things.

Jim Harold:

You are kind of steeped in, not kind of, you are steeped in this, you’re a master of this, but for the average person out there, how can we protect ourselves from the trickster and maybe even the more sinister entities that might want to attach us? I mean, is it for example, a good idea to play with a Ouija board and other types of divination things? Are there certain things we should avoid? Is some of that overblown? How can we as just regular folks who believe in the supernatural, how can we protect ourselves?

Rachel Stavis:

I don’t think there’s really anything that you shouldn’t do. I know Ouija boards are like a whole big thing. Some people have had situations that are bad. I mean, just, I just say, look, ask for protection in doing anything, and don’t mess with things that you don’t understand. If you’re getting something off the internet that says that this summons a demon, just don’t do it. Just don’t do it. Because you don’t know. You never know. I mean, I’ve had clients who are that exactly. So for me, it’s just about the best protection that you can have. And you’re going to laugh because it sounds ridiculous, is you just need to be a better person. Make sure that you’re working on yourself. Make sure that you’re raising your vibration by doing. I have a 30 day connection to spirit. You can do that, does that literally in 30 days. But aside from that, just be kind to people. Be thoughtful, be conscious of the world around you. That actually protects you. The higher your vibration goes, the less there’s something to feed on. That’s it.

Jim Harold:

That makes a lot of sense to me. Very interesting discussion with Rachel Stavis today, and we’ll be back on the Paranormal Podcast right after this message. 

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Jim Harold:

We’re back on the Paranormal Podcast. Our guest is world renowned exorcist, Rachel Stavis, and we’re so glad to have her. Rachel, I know that you hosted that celebrity program, Celebrity Exorcism, it says over here. Yeah, Celebrity Exorcism a few years back and it dealt with some celebrities. And if I understand correctly in your practice, you deal with celebrities along with regular folk. Now, here’s something I’ve always wondered. In terms of haunted places, I think of places like haunted theaters being very, very prominent because my feeling is that show people, and I’ve been around a few show people in my day, they seem to be type A personalities mainly to me. They seem to be a little high strung, but I also think they’re great. It’s not an insult, but they tend to be high energy, very emotional, at least in my experience. Do you find that to be the case? And do you find it that maybe leads to more attachments or more of these kind of intrusions, so to speak? Is that your experience?

Rachel Stavis:

I mean, yes and no. I think a lot of the time, well, two things, I think the bigger the celebrity, the more people they affect. And so there are entities that are looking for that. They’re looking to attach to someone who can affect large crowds. So I actually see a lot of musicians for things like that. But I think at the end of the day, it’s still about trauma and people forget that celebrities still have a lot of trauma. No one’s immune to that. No one’s immune to whatever. It’s so fascinating to me, people’s celebrity cultural ideas because there’s this fascination with celebrities and the idea that they have everything because they have money or they do glamorous things or they go certain places or whatever, and they’re the ones who have the most problems. Honestly, out of all the people, I see more problems than you can imagine. So I think because of that and because people want so much of them and because they’re so public, they do get attachment.

Jim Harold:

It’s interesting, and I won’t get the quote, but I’m sure you’ve seen it, Jim Carey talked about this, about celebrity, and he said, many times people get all the fame you can get and think it will fix you. Yes. And then once you get it, you find out it does not fix you. You have whatever problems you have before. That’s the gist of it, I think. It’s not a direct quote.

Rachel Stavis:

No, totally.

Jim Harold:

And the thing is, is that I think of Elvis, he might still be alive if he continued to drive that truck.

Rachel Stavis:

Yes, it’s true. No, I was just going to say in my practice I see celebrities who are major, major celebrities who can’t really go anywhere. And so people don’t realize what that’s like. It’s like, yes, you have a nice house, but you can’t leave it. They can’t just go to, I dunno, Target to blow off steam or get stuff. They’re kind of caged in a lot of ways. So it’s difficult. It’s not as easy as people think it is.

Jim Harold:

And this is kind of a tough question out of 10,000 cases, but could you share, obviously keeping all confidentiality and everything, but could you share one that really sticks with you? And it could be the most frightening, it could be the most tender, it could be the most fill in the blank, but one that really does stick with you.

Rachel Stavis:

My most challenging case really was what I call the Rosewood Inn. That’s not the name of the place. I sign a lot of NDAs when I do spaces, so I can’t, especially spaces that are still hosting people, which a lot of them are. So I can’t ever say those actual names. Knock on wood though, I will say I’ve only signed one NDA for a person, so that’s pretty great. And all my years of practice, I feel good about that because people trust me. But yeah, so this was an inn that was about to reopen. It had been closed for a while, and they were renovating this inn, and I was called in right before they were supposed to open again. It was like a new owner and all that stuff. And anyway, the long short of it was I walked in pretty cocky because I thought I knew what it was going to be.

And the entity that was in that place was one of the scariest I’ve ever encountered. It was a version of what I call a collector, which is an entity that holds a space, but it’s usually a space of mass trauma where a lot of people died. And what it’ll do is it’ll keep the deceased people to scare the living. So it uses the deceased people like batteries, if you will, to take energy charges from people who walk in and they’ll pick a lot of high traffic areas. And this was and is going to be again. So they had had a massive fire at one point, way back when. And so all these deceased people were in the space. Now normally what happens in a space like that is you go in and you have to communicate with all the deceased people first and release them so that there’s no battery anymore. And then you take the entity out of the space. 

This particular space, the deceased people did not want to leave. The entity had essentially infected them like a virus. And it was the only time where I was actually touched, grabbed by the entity, which they normally cannot do at all. There’s a certain amount of things they can do and they can move energy. And in spaces in particular, they can pull. I mean, they can pull a whole space down if they want to. They’re pretty strong. But this one actually just grabbed and reached out. I still have a scar from this situation. And anyway, the end of it was the entity is not in there anymore, but it’s not quite vanished either. So it’s still out there. So it’s a crazy story. And in fact, we are actually out, we’re bringing that story hopefully to the big screen for you soon so you can see the whole thing. But yeah, it was crazy. I keep journals of all my stories.

Jim Harold:

So if you are going into a case like that, and you know this is a highly charged place, is there a version of bringing in the big guns in addition to yourself? Do you bring on other team members or clergy or something like that to kind of prepare yourself for a battle as opposed to maybe a place where you would feel very comfortable going in just by yourself? Or are you able to handle all this just by yourself?

Rachel Stavis:

I don’t usually like to bring people in just because I feel responsible for them. So I don’t like that feeling. I don’t like, even doing something as simple as celebrity exorcism, you have crew members, you have all kinds of people in the space with you. And even if they don’t believe in anything that’s going on in the space, I still feel an obligation to make sure that they’re safe. So I still went around and made sure everyone was protected and taken care of just in case of anything. So for me, it’s hard to bring people in. I’d rather, as crazy as it sounds, I’d rather deal with all of these things myself. I feel like once I can assess the situation and I know what to do, on occasion though for collectors, or even if it’s a realm walker, it’s sometimes good to bring in a medium who just specializes in deceased people because then you don’t have to spend your time doing that. Someone else can do that.

Jim Harold:

That makes sense. That makes sense. Now, is there ever anything that you’ve encountered, and maybe that was one that you felt like, Ooh, I can’t handle this one, that was too big for you? Or you feel that you’ve always been able, at least at some way to neutralize or in that case, keep this at bay, you’ve always felt up to the task, even if it’s a challenge?

Rachel Stavis:

So far. I’m still doing this, right? My cases are, I was in a meeting not that long ago. You know what? I’m just going to say, I was in a meeting with Blumhouse not that long ago, and Brian, who was a friend of mine, been a friend of mine for years, asked this question and he was like, so do you think that this particular thing is the most difficult you’ve ever had? And I was like, so far? Because I’m still literally doing, it’s not like the Warrens, right? You know who their cases are done. And they can say definitively, this was the worst thing I ever encountered. I have no idea. Could still be coming.

Jim Harold:

Well, we’ll see. We’ll see what happens. Now, one thing, I’ve talked to a lot of people over the years about the supernatural. I’m not an investigator. I’m not a psychic by any means. I’m just a guy who asks questions. The one thing that has disturbed me the most though, and people will say, oh, it’s some scary ghost story or some demonic story. It’s not, the thing that disturbs me most is this whole concept of stuck souls. I like to think that we live in a just universe, and somewhere down the road, maybe somebody was poor or disadvantaged in this life, but if they were a good person somewhere beyond lies a reward, I don’t like to think that that person might be stuck in eternity in a bad situation that you’re stuck. Is that just something that they’ve come up with, the ghost shows, something to talk about, oh, go to the light. Go to the light. Do you think that’s overblown, or do you think stuck souls are a real thing?

Rachel Stavis:

I never look at it as stuck. I guess from my experience, I can’t speak for anybody else, obviously, but from my experience, it’s always a deceased person who is afraid to move on more than stuck. So if you have someone who, and I’ve encountered this in those areas of mass trauma quite a few times. I had one particular place that I o it was a lot of old mob stuff, and there were a lot of deceased people who’d done a lot of terrible things and were afraid to move on because they thought they were going someplace terrible after that. But having conversations with them, which is what I do, I find out what are you worried about is going to be next for you? Because it’s really not terrible, what’s next for them. Are there life lessons and things that people need to learn? Sure. But most stuck souls are just people who don’t know how to get out of the loop or just don’t want to yet.

Jim Harold:

Interesting, interesting. What is your perspective on a hell? Some people I talk to very much believe in, and other people think now that’s just something that was created to keep people in line. Where do you come down on that question?

Rachel Stavis:

That’s a tough one. I mean, entities come from somewhere. I don’t exactly know where they’ve got their own place they come from, but as far as deceased people go, that’s not anything that I’ve ever encountered. So in other words, whenever I talk to spirit about this, or on very rare occasion, I also do seances, essentially, for friends, just for friends and family once a year, not for the public, but just for my own people. Any time I’ve talked to deceased people about this, it seems like hell is really what people go through when they have to take responsibility for actions that they didn’t take here when they were alive. In other words, you don’t get out of that. You don’t get a free pass. So if you are someone who did not take responsibility for negative things that you did here, even if they are small, not small, but we’re not just talking about murder or something, if you were someone who did [bleeped out] things to people, you still have to be accountable for that when you pass. So maybe that’s people’s version of hell, I dunno. But nothing like that you see in movies or cartoons or, you know?

Jim Harold:

Now how do we go about raising our own frequency and connecting to good spirits? What are some of the methodologies that you recommend for maybe people who are interested but don’t necessarily consider themselves to be particularly psychic?

Rachel Stavis:

I think firstly, what you have to do is ask. So people have this weird idea, and I get this in my comments all the time. I teach people how to do this 30 day connection to spirit, which is essentially opening up to spirit and just asking for spirit to connect to you. And so people always put in the comments, and I guess this is a religious teaching probably, but it’s always like, oh no, you can’t ask for anything because you’re just opening yourself up to bad things. The reality is though, that that’s completely false because the negative things don’t need your consent. They don’t need you to open up. They don’t need you to ask the negative things attach without you knowing, and the negative things don’t want you knowing they’re there. Whereas high beings and all the good things, whatever you consider it, angels, God source, you know, those things connect to you when you ask because they do believe in free will and they do want to be asked.

So the more that you say, okay, spirit, let’s say, I would like to be able to hear you more or receive your messages more or raise my vibration or do any of these things, the more you’ll start to see. So once you do that, your job is to pay attention essentially, and see repeating numbers and patterns and feathers and things like coins. All this stuff is how they first start communicating with you before you can actually do it yourself. So the more you ask, the more you receive, the more you say, okay, I’m not sure what to do, I need help with something, you’ll get that help. It’s really just that simple. I know it sounds crazy, but we complicate everything. Spirit is very simple.

Jim Harold:

No, that’s true. Humans do complicate everything.

Rachel Stavis:

We make it complicated.

Jim Harold:

We make it very complicated. So you talked a little bit about exorcism and Catholicism and the misperception. In general, what do you think are some of the misperceptions that pop culture, tv, movies, books, whatever get wrong about the supernatural realm from your experience? What are the things that are just jigged up to get people tuning in and clicking and so forth, and which things are more real? What are your thoughts?

Rachel Stavis:

Well, first thing I think of is that entities in particular are always movie style entities that are coming for this girl on a farm and just decide to terrorize her whole family and then kill everyone for no reason. That’s one, because it doesn’t happen like that at all, or that they jump from person to person to person. They can’t actually do that at all either. And then with deceased people, I think it makes me laugh because it’s always deceased people are scary, all the time. Scary. Not that they were ever just people who happened to be dead.

Jim Harold:

Right, because we’re all going to get there sooner or later.

Rachel Stavis:

I know. And I always think, that’s so funny. I’m like, every single disease person is now trying to haunt you in a terrible way. That’s not what happens. It’s just not what happens. If your grandmother was an awesome person and she passes, then she’s still pretty great, and whenever she visits, she’s going to be pretty great.

Jim Harold:

And vice versa, right?

Rachel Stavis:

Yeah. I mean, if you’re a jerk in life, you’re probably going to be a jerk dead person.

Jim Harold:

Well, hopefully I won’t be a jerk in the afterlife. Hopefully I am okay now. So words of recommendation for people who want to tune into this. You talked about it a little bit before, but before we go, certainly we want to talk about how people can connect with you, get your book, any other projects you want to share with folks. But what would be some final words of wisdom for our audience today before we get to that?

Rachel Stavis:

I think, just try to be a good person. It’s really hard. The state of the world today is rough and it’s bleak, but we each have the capacity to make things better. And if you just do one kind thing for a person every day, just one, for an animal, for yourself, for someone else, you’ll raise your vibration. You’ll protect yourself, but you’ll also be spreading some kindness into the world, and we really, really could use that right now.

Jim Harold:

It’s really interesting. I don’t know that I’ve ever had anybody say that, and I think that’s one of the cooler things I’ve ever had anybody to say. I mean, for my Campfire show where people come on, I try to be very supportive of their stories and very open to them. And somebody said, well, you’re like the Bob Ross of the paranormal, which I thought was a great compliment. But the point is, is that there’s nothing wrong with being a good person. I think that’s just, if more people just tried to be kind in their own, that doesn’t mean that we all agree about everything. We’re not going to all agree about everything. And I think that’s, personally, I think that’s a problem we have in our world today. You have to think what I think or you’re –  but if we could just be kind, open the door for somebody, let somebody in traffic, that’s it. Help the elderly neighbor. If you live in a neighborhood like I do, maybe shovel their walk if it snows, little stuff like that. And if everybody did that, it would add up. And I think both in our life here on earth and spiritually, it would just be so much a better place. And I’m not always.

Rachel Stavis:

Yeah, it would change the world.

Jim Harold:

Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think I’m a pretty nice person, and sometimes I’ll be in traffic forever, blah, blah, blah. I’ll say things I shouldn’t say, but then think about that person just cut you off. Maybe they’re rushing to the bedside of a sick parent. Maybe they just had a really bad day, or maybe they’re a jerk, but you don’t have to be a jerk because they’re a jerk. And I always try to remind myself of that and don’t always succeed, but I try.

Rachel Stavis:

I had literally yesterday, I was coming back from picking someone up at the airport, and it was last night, and I was driving and there was a green light, and this girl completely ran a red light. She stopped, but she stopped and realized and then backed herself up. But you could tell that she was just like, she had no idea what was going on. And you don’t know what’s going on with that girl right now. You just don’t, don’t know if someone just died. You don’t know anything.

Jim Harold:

Yeah, that’s right. That’s exactly right. Well, we do know what’s going on with Rachel Stavis. She has a lot going on. 10,000 people plus. That’s a lot.

Rachel Stavis:

That is nuts.

Jim Harold:

That is also, you have her book here, sister of Darkness, the Chronicles of a Modern Exorcist, which you can get. And I was looking, it’s on hardcover, paperback, Kindle, and Audible. I mean, it’s audio books, it’s everything, right?

Rachel Stavis:

I think so.

Jim Harold:

Yeah. Pretty much any, and I saw it there on Amazon, and I’m assuming you can get it from your local bookstore as well if you ask for it. Tell us what else is going on and what else you’d like to direct people to.

Rachel Stavis:

Yeah, so obviously my Instagram and my TikTok are where I post all my things. So that’s just my name, RH Stavis. And then right now we are taking Sister of Darkness, we are turning it into a TV series. So we’re working on that at the moment, literally at the moment. And then, as I had said before, I have so many unpublished journals of all of these crazy cases that I’ve worked on that we are now bringing to film. So it’s a crazy time. There’s just so much going on. It’s really busy, but very exciting, and I’m excited to share all of these stories with everyone and hope everyone likes it.

Jim Harold:

Well, Rachel, thank you so much for joining us. You’ve been a very kind person today. We appreciate it. And so good to spend some time with you. I hope you have a great ‘24, and you have great success in all of those projects. And they can find you at RH Davis on Instagram and TikTok, correct?

Rachel Stavis:

Yes. Yes. And thank you so much for having me,

Jim Harold:

And thank you for joining us today on the Paranormal Podcast. We appreciate it very much. And if you didn’t realize, there is a full video version of this show on YouTube, and it is a full video version of me and Rachel talking. That is a new thing starting this week, the Paranormal Podcast, every week we’ll have the audio show, just like you heard. As always, nothing changes there. We’ve been doing that for 18 years. We’re not going to stop now, but the same content will be on YouTube in a true video form. I know we’ve been posting for the last several months, the audio with just a static slide. Well, from now on, it’s going to be posted full video interview, and we have a great one coming up next week already that we’ve recorded and we are hard at work, and it does add quite a bit of work to do video, true video.

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